Wrap your mind around this...

I get ya, I guess I'm not entirely a complete agnostic myself when I think about it.

I too believe in Karma and balance, and am well aware that I do have a soul, or non-physical self (made quite apparent in an out of body experience once, but that's another story and involves some unmentionables ;)...) I also strongly believe in the spiritual realms, and the unseen and have had experiences with such (hinted by the name). I do believe there is some sort of higher power(s) or force(s) connecting us all, I just choose not to define them, and acknowledge that I don't and cannot understand how it works.

This is the whole bases for religious wars.... One thinking they hold the true religion.... Karma and such things alike are actually looked down upon by major religions, same with superstition.
The point here is, religious people must dedicate themselves to one religion, and within hat religion holds right/wrong. You cant compare being right in one religion to being wrong in another because the basic idea is that u follow your own religion and have hold faith in it. People don't look at other religions and compare there's. I personal don't believe in religion, and many religious people may think that with out one your a lost soul, boy are they wrong. Right and wrong is based on your personal moral compass, and if your part of a religion it should be centered around its ideals. Which cracks me up when people cant even follow there own religions morals.

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Originally Posted by headshake

... while i agree that most of us don't have a clue about our creator, i wouldn't label myself an agnostic.
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-shake

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yeah, i agree. i'm the same way.

like shake was saying, when you look around some times and you see, for example, just how beautiful the changing leaves are right now and think of all the details of its beauty, it is hard for me to imagine that this is the random result of natural selection. but i think to even believe in a "creator" concept may excludes me from being a true agnostic (or is that atheism, hell i forgot :stoned: :D ).

i think we may be "other" :cool:

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Originally Posted by RAINHAZE

Even though alot of stuff in the Bible has been proven to be true through archaelogy, . . .

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Archaeology has validated certain historical references, not the religious interpretation of those events. Remember that archaeologists found Troy, but it doesn't prove that Achilles was invulnerable except his heel . . .