Struggling

Revelation -

Thanks a million. Your info was more than helpful.

I have quit drinking for now, and cut back on both weed and cigarettes. Sadly, the prozac has fucked up my appetite so badly that I almost HAVE to smoke just to get my metabolism working and get hungry enough to eat a decent meal. I've already lost about 12 pounds in the last week, and if it werenn't for the munchies I would have probably lost much more.

As far as oxy contin goes, I don't plan to use that until I feel completely healthy. You're right about it being addictive, and I have a buddy who is a living example of what happens when you get out of control with OC's.

And I already drink a ton of green tea and water, and it helps.

Thanks again kind sir.

-dirty

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Originally Posted by RIP ODB

Revelation -

Thanks a million. Your info was more than helpful.

I have quit drinking for now, and cut back on both weed and cigarettes. Sadly, the prozac has fucked up my appetite so badly that I almost HAVE to smoke just to get my metabolism working and get hungry enough to eat a decent meal. I've already lost about 12 pounds in the last week, and if it werenn't for the munchies I would have probably lost much more.

As far as oxy contin goes, I don't plan to use that until I feel completely healthy. You're right about it being addictive, and I have a buddy who is a living example of what happens when you get out of control with OC's.

And I already drink a ton of green tea and water, and it helps.

Thanks again kind sir.

-dirty

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NO problem at all.

If you are having problems with your hunger and weight loss, you could get a high quality weight gainer that it mostly protien from GNC. Some of it tastes like shit but there are a few that are not bad at all. I work out alot so I take it for extra protien that I cant get in my diet.

You will want one that has both fast acting and slow acting protiens so it will keep you fuller longer, give you a broader range of amino acids, as well as give you more calories per serving.

One of the best tasting ones that I found is the chocolate "Meso-tech" from Muscletech. There are a few more as well that are cheaper, but its almost like you sacrifice cost for taste or texture with alot of them, lol.

You can down a glass anytime you dont feel like eating. And if you just take one a day it should have plenty of protien to keep your weight up when you combine it with healthy foods.

My good friend is a diabetic, and he finds that if he eats like shit he loses weight, but when he startes eating healthier foods, he gained weight (mostly lean muscle). Give it a try and see what the results are.

Once again, take care. Our body and our minds are the only ones we got, so be kind to your self.

this girl i know had bad withdrawl from prozac, she said the shit sucked bad. Best of luck to ya

I appreciate everyone's help, especially since this is an issue I care not to discuss with my "real life" friends. I don't want them to feel sorry for me or anything.

What's your take on gatorade? Is that hurting or helping? I drink a ton of it, but if you think it's better, I'll replace it with water.

Any tips for falling asleep? I went for a long ass bike ride today and hopefully that will help, but I went to a walk in clinic and they gave me something called Trazodone, which puts me to sleep ONLY if I take more than the reccomended dose. One pill does nothing, two or three will put me asleep for like 12 hours, which isn't good. I have been trying to cut back on herb, but this past week has been hell, and herb is really the only thing that calms me down enough for me to sleep, but if there's something else out there my ears are open.

Thanks again to all, especially Revelation. It's not like I can ask a doctor these questions because I wouldn't tell him that I smoke herb.

-DB

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Originally Posted by RIP ODB

I appreciate everyone's help, especially since this is an issue I care not to discuss with my "real life" friends. I don't want them to feel sorry for me or anything.

What's your take on gatorade? Is that hurting or helping? I drink a ton of it, but if you think it's better, I'll replace it with water.

Any tips for falling asleep? I went for a long ass bike ride today and hopefully that will help, but I went to a walk in clinic and they gave me something called Trazodone, which puts me to sleep ONLY if I take more than the reccomended dose. One pill does nothing, two or three will put me asleep for like 12 hours, which isn't good. I have been trying to cut back on herb, but this past week has been hell, and herb is really the only thing that calms me down enough for me to sleep, but if there's something else out there my ears are open.

Thanks again to all, especially Revelation. It's not like I can ask a doctor these questions because I wouldn't tell him that I smoke herb.

-DB

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To help myself get some good sleep, I do some body-weight exercises right before I go to bed, followed by some nice long, deep stretches to lower the Yang build up and to increase relaxation. Meditation also helps following the session, but that is more a personal preference for myself.

I do push-ups to failure, crunches to failure, leg lifts and flutter kicks to failure. Hindu squats 3 sets to failure, and then I do handstands against the wall. I do one right after the other without breaks. This part takes 10-15 min tops.


Then I stretch for a good long while using various gymnist and yoga-type stretches combined with deep breathing (very important) until I feel my energy becoming more relaxed and peaceful. Then I take a nice warm shower, and fall into bed and close my eyes in complete, beautiful darkness, and then drift off to sleep.

Also, pay attantion to the strain you are smoking, and if it has any Yang qualitys at all try not to smoke it too late in the evening. Alot of people use bud to fall asleep, but I try to aviod it whenever I can.

My reason for this is because your body is having to deal with processing the THC and CBD's while you are sleeping and this wastes valuable energy needed for balancing the body and the mind while we sleep. Pretty much, you are making your body work while we should be resting fully, instead of allowing our body to refine and create new energy for the following day.

Because of the high sugar content in gatorade, I would only drink it after INTENSE physical exertion. Mainly only when you sweat faster than the body can absorb water. I drink it after Mui Tai, because I lose so much water over the course of a couple of hours.

The simple sugars otherwise just cause a crazy insuline spike when can upset your natural energy flow, causing sugar crashes, nervousness or lethary, and possibly in the long term, diabetis. This goes with anything that has refined sugar, high fructose corn surup, or high glycemic-type carbohydrates.

Melatonin is a natural supplement than helps with spleep. Its pretty cheap too. The only problem with it is that your tolerance builds up rather quickly to it, and when I used to take it on an emty stomach it would become upset. I would reccomoned taking it only when you really need it. Then take a break every couple of weeks from it, to help lower your body's resistance to it.

Traz sucks, IMO. My brother was on it for insomnia and it just fucked up his energy levels even more. Even more so when he tried taking more and more. I guess I just don't condone any perscrition meds at all, for anything. Unless there is just absoluetly no other option. However, I believe that there are very few reasons to do these drugs.

Mainly because almost all of them have too many side effects to mention, and instead of balancing out your body, they just throw it further off kilter.

You start taking something for an illness, you get the side effects, go back to the doctor, he prescribes something else to counter the side effects, those drugs give you different side effects, you go back to the doctor for those...repeat until you die basically.

Most often there is something we can do to by adjusting our lifesyle, eating habits, and by using natural herbs, to correct most minor imbalances. The beauty of this is, one, YOU have the control over your body and mind, not some quack or some drug hes pushing.

Two, the more balanced your body becomes the easier it is to correct most of your heath and well being problems beacause, well, there are fewer problems, and they tend to be less serious.

Third, the more you get in tune with you body, by fixing yourself, the better you get at balancing your heath AND your life, and everything seems to become easier and more care free. Happiness follows, and life is good.

I truly hope this helps you. If you apply even a few of these principles, you will find a positive change in the way you feel, and your overall outlook on life.

Take Care, and good luck to you. :D

If it were me...I'd wait out the DTs from the Prozac and see how you feel then. If you still have the racing thought, weight loss, and sleeplessness, then you may belong to my club...the Cyclothymics/Bipolars. Which is not the kind of club that most people want to be in...but here we are.

My 20+ years of experience with this have taught me this:

You can't do shit by yourself. You won't be able to have any objective or rational insight into your own thinking/behavior when ur cycling.

Xanax et. al. won't help much other than relieving anxiety/panic attacks...so I have weaned myself down to very low dosages and only take when I absolutely have to. (this is alot cheaper too!)

Antidepressants help alot at first but won't fix it. It's a long road of small steps and you gotta talk to somebody who can give you honest sympathetic feedback.

If you have problems with relationships in ur life, you gotta work hard to fix those or you won't have a chance.

Cigarettes are really bad...I know...I still smoke when I'm dry.

Ganja helps me to be able to objectively look at myself and my circumstances and can break bad cycles which can lead to depression, anger, aggression and screw up relationships, jobs, etc. But it won't fix anything by itself.

This is just my personal experience and hopefullly you don't fall into this category, but if you do...you ain't alone my friend.

GL mate!

UPDATE:

I still can't sleep but overall I feel much better. I have been exercising and eating healthy, drinking plenty of water and green tea, smoking only one or 2 cigarettes a day.

The doctors now have given me Zeprexa, anything real important I should know about that stuff? I could go look it up, but the webMD doesnt take kindly to cannabis use...

You guys think I should try to get MMJ? Or am I just insulting those who actually get MMJ for a real reason like cancer or something?

Thanks in advance.

-Dirty

PS I don't think I'm bipolar, but it could be man. I sometimes am depressed and then a little while later I'll be happy as a clam. I thought this was the prozac withdrawals, but maybe I am bipolar, who knows.

Zeprexa is just another cheap drug you will get addicted to.

Tell your doctor to fuck off. Do you pay for this shit?

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Originally Posted by larry

Zeprexa is just another cheap drug you will get addicted to.

Tell your doctor to fuck off. Do you pay for this shit?

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You think I'd pay for these drugs after I realized how bad they've fucked me up? Believe me bro, my family has some good health insurance. And the only anti depressant I would ever spend money on is top of the line MMJ.

I've lost about 3 years of my life cause of these god forsaken drugs, and I'm not gettin any younger...

So, here's my drug history, I've taken

celexa - zoloft - prozac - wellbutrin - abilify - risperdal - that's all I can remember off the top of my head.

But currently I'm on the following

Prozac 20 mg (I'm supposed to take 60, but I know better)+ Zantac (for heartburn, nothing to do with mental problems) + Trazodone + Zyprexa.

I've been exercising lately and flushing out my system with water and green tea.

And you know how I feel? I can't sleep, my mind goes at 150 MPH, and I feel like a zombie.

Any tips out there that I dont know about already?

Another question that deserves bold type is: Will this bull shit last forever?
And another thing, I know this thread is time consuming both to read and respond to, and most people don't even look at the medical boards, so until they find a way to email joints, I guess my thank you for now is just verbal.

You guys are all good samaritans.

-Big Baby Jesus

That's what the med boards are for :)

The bipolar diagnosis has changed ALOT in the last few years. Used to be the only people diagnosed or treated were those who had mania bordering on psychosis. Now they've figured out that it is a spectrum thing rather than "you have it or you don't" kind of thing. The low grade condition is called cyclothymia.

I used to get really pissed off and just go nuts over stupid stuff, or I'd be really depressed for no good reason. Now I can let stuff just slide....most of the time :)

The sad thing is that I had to do all the research on my own. Many shrinks nowadays still aren't up on the latest info, or they just have a hard time diagnosing it. I had to bring it up myself!

I told my shrink that I smoked and he was like, "meh, so what." I started smoking for this very reason and found that it leveled my mood out...at least temporarily...enough to get centered anyway.

It sucks, but it ain't hopeless and you aren't alone :)

peace >@