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Hey Rusty;
Try reading "Horticulture, Principlals and Practices" by George Arquaah.
Then if you would really like to discuss it and not debate it, come talk to me.
Otherwise, have a nice day.................
......'cause what would Willie do?????????
Hey purplekush989,Quote:
Originally Posted by purplekush989
If that is the criteria....I give up now.
I've said this before but it bares repeating now, I'm an old man and I equate things to Willie Nelson...........
one of the best "willieisms" is on his 75th birthday he announced: "It's offical, I've outlived my dick." and I'm older then Willie.
I do think Rusty is just looking to fight for some reason, I don't know why.
Shame he could not take a hint from StinkyAttic the other night....on Mother's day our "spiritual mother" made an appearence, and was not happy with what she saw. And basically was disappointed by all of our behavior, sort of left me with a feeling she was saying: I thought I had raised you all better then this.
Oh well, I'm sure Rusty is a fine individual and you know we do agree on a lot of things. It's ironic that this is over 24/0 vs 18/6 when in fact I use BOTH right now. In my home grow it's 18/6 and in my parterned grow we have been using 24/0 soon to change to 20/4. And I have no problem with those who use or bring thier beliefs about the plant to the table. If someone wants to believe thier plant needs to rest for whatever amount of time they think it is, thats ok too. It's just like believing in moon phases for planting or such, if it works for you then great use it. I will not critize it. I digress.
Hey purplekush, thanks for giving me an excuse to vent a little.
I'm kinda surprised you bringing stinkyattic into this. What's the matter...can't back your statement, so you'll attack elsewhere?Quote:
Originally Posted by oldmac
Stinky has other problems, and I'm quite certain she does not need you inserting words in her mouth to get her point across. Plus...I'm not here to impress her or you. I'm here to help all interested parties learn how to grow the best cannabis possible, without falling victim to old wives tales, etherial concepts, pyramid power, and factless theories. If she finds fault with my technique or insight...she'll let me know. The rest is simply personalities.
But it's funny you arguing a point you can't prove, and then you tell me I'm the one itching to fight. If fighting for the facts is is disappointing, then I guess you'll be disappointed quite often, as I am not one to say: "ok...it's not worth fighting over"...after the fight has been ongoing. You can't have it both ways. Either you can provide proof here, or not.
Everything in the natural world has a cause-and-effect.
Yes, cannabis can be grown on a 24/0 schedule. But is that optimal...? I argue that no...it is not best. And what kind of peripheral stressors does this add to the pants down the line? What what does it do to the plant's disease resistance? Dorught resistance? Oxygen exchange and outgassing? How much bulk is gained or lost? Will it lengthen or shotren the intrnode spacing? How about cell repair and development? How long before the genetics change, in the plant's attempts to accomodate the effects of a 24/0 schedule? How long till the thc/cbn/cbd ratios get too fucked-up to do us any good?
Link your proof, as I have no local library, and would love for you to point-out the docummented evidence that darkness does nothing for healthy vegetative cannabis growth. You can be the very first to provide this proof, in the history of cannabis forums. :thumbsup:
Also...I believe I heard you mention that the roots don't grow during the darkness...I'm assuming that by this, you mean that they do nothing during darkness. Is this the case? Anxiously awaiting your response. :jointsmile:
Hey come on guys i didn't put this question up so that this could start agruments..Im sorry i did tho because its kind of my fault...But come on guys everyone has there own opinions ya know....I just don't want you guys arguing over something so stupid...Smoke a little and forget about it!!:jointsmile:
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Originally Posted by Rusty Trichome
If you want to blast by the veg phase use 24-0.
MJ is a c3 plant, it does not need darknes for veg!!! This has been proven over and over. I have grown plants side by side same strain, one with 24-0 and the other on 18-6. Guess which one grew faster and stronger? :jointsmile:
You may be wrong my friend.
Sorry if I'm not impressed with your calims, but the last time I took someones statement on face value, I became a dad. (she wasn't on the pill)
Will lack of a dark period kill your plants? No. Is it the best treatment you can offer your ladies on their journey? In my opinion...no. And to me, it's not a technique I'd teach a newcomer unarmed to fight any potential stresses this induces in both short and long-term. I tried the technique a few times, and was unimpressed with root development and foliar growth. The plants without darkness looked runted and undernourished. Not nearly as healthy as what I usually grow, so yes...it does seem to change the plant physiology. (growth habits, the appearance of being healthy, size and structure of the leaves, internode spacing...) I offer no proof of my insight, as it is my opinion, developed after quite a few years of growing my meds. And like you, my hands are tied since there is no proof either way, that withholding darkness isn't a stressor. With the exception of nature, of course.
Ya know...this discussion would end real quick, were you two to back your statements with supporting documentation. But I'm done dicking with this thread, as you will continue to do what you want, and I will continue to enjoy my meds. Right or wrong...you have not convinced me of anything other than the fact that the debate continues.......:jointsmile:
HEY GUYS FINALLY PUT A FEW PICS UP LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU GUYS THINK AND IF YOU HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS THANKS:jointsmile:
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Originally Posted by Rusty Trichome
Rusty knows his shit! I'd definitely agree with 24/0 not having any substantial benefits. I enjoy my 18/6 and so do my plants, so that's is what I stick with. No plants outside in nature have lighting 24 hrs a day. That right there should tell you something! Anywho, I could really care less as long as they provide me with enough meds to keep me satisfied! :D
P.S. I tried to give you some +rep but it says, "You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Rusty Trichome again." :D Sorry!
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Originally Posted by Rusty Trichome
Ok, there are several books, even encyclopedias that explain a c3 plant grows as long as there is light for it to do so! I thought this was common knowledge, most plants on earth are c3.
Lets not forget where most of our country gets a HUGE ammount of its fruits and veggies from. Same place where the sun and calm weather allow for long days of growth. (San Juaquin Valley, CALIFORNIA)
If you want to grow tall, skinnier plants, then turn the lights off in veg.
I had to turn my lights off a couple times, but only because of heat, and since I added a fan so I can run the lights 24-0!!:stoned:
Not to argue, but you said ^^^^ and you said long days, which suggests there is still a night period. :DQuote:
Same place where the sun and calm weather allow for long days of growth.
Sorry, I'm reallllllllly :stoned: and I couldn't help myself!