Why the Volcano is Unmatched
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Originally Posted by FourTwenty4Life
That is why I will ask them to specifically mention the technical aspects that sets their vape apart from others. That's exactly what I asked of S&B, to describe the technical workings of their Volcano....
Here is an example of the kind of marketing hype I am talking about. He said, "The VOLCANO is built as a medical grade device, with pinpoint accuracy. The temperature accuracy of the CLASSIC or DIGIT is unmatched by other products."
I take issue with this. There is a German made vape called the Aromed. It is the only vape that has a microprocessor that constantly monitors the temp in the herb rather than monitoring the temp at the heat source. Here is their marketing hype regarding temp control:
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How exact is the temperature setting of the AroMed?
Vaporizing temperatures in the AroMed can be selected in 1°C/2°F steps from 60°C/152°F to 235°C/455°F. Inhalation of about any active agent, from essential oils to components boiling at high temperatures is possible.
Like in all other vaporizers, the hot air temperature is measured where originated, but only the AroMed has a built in processor, that calculates exact temperatures inside the herbal materials.
A comparison: Another vaporizer is temperature controlled by an electric iron thermostat with a measuring tolerance of +/- 15°C/59°F. Fluctuation ranges of 30°C/86°F are most likely. It has a knob to choose temperatures between 1 and 9.
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So ya see, they also make a pretty convincing argument. So is it really true when a marketing manager from Volcano states that, "The temperature accuracy of the CLASSIC or DIGIT is unmatched by other products." ?
Maybe, maybe not.
Why the Volcano is Unmatched
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Originally Posted by lwien123
Here is an example of the kind of marketing hype I am talking about. He said, "The VOLCANO is built as a medical grade device, with pinpoint accuracy. The temperature accuracy of the CLASSIC or DIGIT is unmatched by other products."
I take issue with this. There is a German made vape called the Aromed. It is the only vape that has a microprocessor that constantly monitors the temp in the herb rather than monitoring the temp at the heat source. Here is their marketing hype regarding temp control:
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How exact is the temperature setting of the AroMed?
Vaporizing temperatures in the AroMed can be selected in 1°C/2°F steps from 60°C/152°F to 235°C/455°F. Inhalation of about any active agent, from essential oils to components boiling at high temperatures is possible.
Like in all other vaporizers, the hot air temperature is measured where originated, but only the AroMed has a built in processor, that calculates exact temperatures inside the herbal materials.
A comparison: Another vaporizer is temperature controlled by an electric iron thermostat with a measuring tolerance of +/- 15°C/59°F. Fluctuation ranges of 30°C/86°F are most likely. It has a knob to choose temperatures between 1 and 9.
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So ya see, they also make a pretty convincing argument. So is it really true when a marketing manager from Volcano states that, "The temperature accuracy of the CLASSIC or DIGIT is unmatched by other products." ?
Maybe, maybe not.
This is just my take on that quote. I think when he said "unmatched" he meant in terms of how long the Volcano has been around with their technology. Yes other makers are now starting to mimic aspects of the cano but they haven't been around as long. While that processor sounds pretty interesting, it doesn't combine with the rest of what makes up a Volcano, which is described in the e-mail along with the pdf illustration.
So maybe he meant that "unmatched" was like a total package deal in terms of the popularity, name recognition, reliability, performance, sales figures, etc. The only other explanation I could give would be that he isn't familiar with that vaporizer to compare it, as he stated about the Purple Days "I can??t really tell, if the Purple Days is more effective, as I must admit that I don??t know the product, but I assume that there would be more ??spread the word? testimonials if it is outstanding." Maybe I will send him another e-mail asking him to compare the temperature accuracy to the AroMed.
The quote I think that sums up what he was getting at is this "As the VOLCANO company, of course, we always monitor the market for competitors, but luckily there is no serious competitor so far."
I think S&B is working on something new and I can only imagine it's a smaller, cheaper, and perhaps more portable type of unit. Only time will tell. There are plenty of cheaper options other than the Volcano. However, you have to admit that the facts in the e-mail are pretty convincing, even if he's a marketing manager, he sure knows his stuff and facts are facts. For example, I never thought about a whip vape like that until he explained it better.:hippy:
Why the Volcano is Unmatched
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Originally Posted by FourTwenty4Life
Maybe I will send him another e-mail asking him to compare the temperature accuracy to the AroMed.
That would be interesting, especially being that they are both German made. I would think that he would be familiar with the AroMed.
Why the Volcano is Unmatched
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Originally Posted by lwien123
That would be interesting, especially being that they are both German made. I would think that he would be familiar with the AroMed.
I just sent the e-mail to S&B. I hope you don't mind but I quoted your entire 1st and 6th response into the e-mail so that more specific answers could be given. I will post when I get a response. In the mean time I'm gathering the contact info for other vapes.:hippy:
Why the Volcano is Unmatched
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Originally Posted by FourTwenty4Life
I just sent the e-mail to S&B. I hope you don't mind but I quoted your entire 1st and 6th response into the e-mail so that more specific answers could be given.
Nope. Don't mind at all. What you may then want to do is to email Volcano's response to Aromed to get their response.
I believe that if both of these marketing managers from these companies are any good at all, they will both come up with convincing arguments why THEIR vaporizer is better.
Why the Volcano is Unmatched
well for how much they ask for a volcano it had better be un-matched!!!
its tough to compare a $500 product with a $200 product, you would HOPE the volcano would be superior, i haven't seen other products in the similar price range that aren't exact repliacs of the volcano
Why the Volcano is Unmatched
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Originally Posted by MPLSweedman
well for how much they ask for a volcano it had better be un-matched!!!
its tough to compare a $500 product with a $200 product, you would HOPE the volcano would be superior, i haven't seen other products in the similar price range that aren't exact repliacs of the volcano
Aromed is $439.00.
Why the Volcano is Unmatched
Ok, I know this is gonna upset you 420, but in keeping with the theme of this thread, "Why the Volcano is Unmatched", I figured it may be a good idea to post up a few threads from another site where the 'Cano is discussed by 'Cano users who own multiple vapes, so that rather than hearing just from marketing managers, we can also get a taste here of actual users comparing various vapes against the 'Cano by actual Volcano users, some positive, some negative.
I don't know a better way to direct people to specific threads at a specific site without hyperlinks, and I understand that this is a sensitive issue, but I think that the information provided may be worth taking the chance of possibly breaking some rules here.
I apologize in advance, and sincerely hope that the following may provide a bit more insight into "Why the Volcano is Unmatched" or better yet, "Is the Volcano Unmatched"
Fuck Combustion - Vaporizer Forum / Get it all out - Bash the Volcano thread
Fuck Combustion - Vaporizer Forum / Just bought brand new Volcano... have a few questions about useage...
Feel free to report this 420, if you really feel that it is out of line, for I too, am a bit concerned about hyper-linking these threads. Just couldn't figure out a better way to do it, but if it does get deleted, I understand.
I just figured that user reports along with marketing manager reports may give us a clearer picture of where the Volcano fits into the current vaporizer market.
Btw, I apologize for the title of the first thread. But it was created by a very avid Volcano user who wanted to motivate some conversation. It is not, by any means, a bashing thread, for there are both pro's and con's that are discussed.
Why the Volcano is Unmatched
Thanks for sharing. It's good to have a nice mix of vape user opinions plus the expertise of Storz & Bickel.
By the way, I'll be trying out the i-Olite in a few days because my friend just ordered one. I'm excited because this is a nice way to test the waters to see if I truly want to get one for myself.
You can agree with the title of this thread or disagree, or agree to disagree. Either way, if you're not vaporizing, you don't know what you're missing out on.:hippy:
p.s. I'm high....:stoned::rasta::smokin::pimp::jointsmile: :vap_smiley:
Why the Volcano is Unmatched
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Originally Posted by FourTwenty4Life
You can agree with the title of this thread or disagree, or agree to disagree. Either way, if you're not vaporizing, you don't know what you're missing out on.:hippy:
Amen to that, brotha. :thumbsup:
