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If citizens can be randomly drug tested to receive benefits from the government, then elected officials should also be randomly drug tested because they are receiving benefits from the people. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. And a win (sic), win (sic) situation. :thumbsup::jointsmile:
And ultimately, it's up to the employer to choose what their policy is regarding drugs. Some places will send you to rehab and give you a chance to get clean, others will fire you. It is their personal choice. You sign a contract agreeing to just that when you start most jobs.
I agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by gypski
So what is your view on the situation? Look the other way? Pretend there isn't a poverty problem?Quote:
Originally Posted by JaggedEdge
Nope, but did the new deal solve the poverty problem? No. It only exacerbated the Great Depression.Quote:
Originally Posted by 40oz
AMEN.Quote:
Originally Posted by gypski
as much as I do not agree with most forms of wellfare, in no way do I hope that the government can take away money because of a drug test. That is an invasion of ones freedom.Remember----give them an inch and they will take YOUR mile!!!!!!!!!
That argument doesn't work. When they pay people to do nothing, you grant them the right to be invasive.Quote:
Originally Posted by thedeadone
I don't see how it is an invasion of freedoms. If you are collecting money for the government, why shouldn't strings be attached. If they required a chip be implanted in you in order to receive welfare (not unemployment) I see nothing wrong with it. If you don't want the chip, don't take the money.
Personally this drug testing is offensive, you NEVER see wealthy CEO's dropping their pants to pee in a cup. I would be more concerned with all those rich a%^ that just ripped off billions in ponzi scams, than worrying about if a welfare person is smoking a joint. I am sure there will come a time when they will regulate our life's, that is if you are not in the top 5% of the wealthy. The whole drug testing thing is disgusting, and once again, they only test the working stiffs, not the one's that actually handle the real money of the business, no they can have cocktails at lunch and figure out how to make more money off the backs of the working man.Quote:
How about cigarettes and alcohol? Those are drugs also... Do they even have tests for these? Well, once everyone has their personal microchip implanted, they can regulate what you buy and how much
I agree with you. But the thing is, if you're on welfare, you are almost positively not smoking anything thats worth 100 a quarter. At least, never in my experiences anyway. When you cant afford the good stuff, you tend to find the green bricks that float around. Not that bad, and eases the stress caused by problems related to having to be on welfare in the first place. Everything IS connected.Quote:
Originally Posted by JaggedEdge
So in essence, I actually DISagree with the notion to drug test welfare recipients. Many of the recipients are drug users, several of harder drugs. If their particular substance is addictive, drug testing for welfare would definately cause a crime spike in more urban environments, though it may not be of outstanding significance.
Along with it being somewhat immoral, denying help to someone who is unable to help themselves.