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After legalization, I would hope that we bring back, and put a tariff on, the great imported varieties of weed and hash.
Imports would be much cheaper, but for those that still want to grow their own, or buy domestically grown stuff, that's fine also.
^ yea smoke crazy shit from all over the world!
I saw legalize it because the taxes from it would be outstanding. But also let the people that have dispensaries keep them and only pay a small fee to turn it into a shop.
If you have your own growing then just keep it under wraps.
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thank you, I knew there had to be someone out there in California who felt this way. Very valid points, imo. I moved out of L.A. the year before 215 (oops :stoned:) but I've wondered how things are now. Having quality bud delivered has just got to be the best thing ever. :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Medicaldelivery
215 seems to be working out fairly well for the consumer, why f it up, eh?
"AB 390 would charge cannabis wholesalers $5,000 initially and $2,500 annually for the right to distribute weed. Retail outlets would pay fees of $50 per ounce of cannabis to generate revenue for drug education programs statewide."
^ this does seem to put all the costs on the backs of the dispensaries. the theory is the price would drop below the added costs of the taxes but I'm not sure how that would work. are the growers and dispensaries really gaining any value for this cost? The feds could still bust them, maybe even more so.
I think I like Jack Herer's proposed inititive better. It only taxes cannabis euphoric products and not medical products and at a lower rate. Plus this initiatives provides the added bonus of shredding all cannabis related criminal records and legalization of hemp.
1. License concessionary establishments to distribute cannabis hemp euphoric products in a manner analogous to California's wine industry model. Sufficient community outlets shall be licensed to provide reasonable commercial access to persons of legal age, so as to discourage and prevent the misuse of, and illicit traffic in, such products. Any license or permit fee required by the State for commercial production, distribution or use shall not exceed $1,000.00.
2. Place an excise tax on commercial sale of cannabis hemp euphoric products, analogous to California's wine industry model, so long as no excise tax or combination of excise taxes shall exceed $10.00 per ounce.
What not just tax cannabis farmers like we tax any other kind of farmer?
Medicaldelivery. What do you pay for a license now? Somehow, I just flashed on a "Domino's Pizza" type of service for 30 min or less or free cannabis! lol...
Prescriptions were delivered at one time and some Pharmacies still deliver. Is it going to be treated like liquor, milk, pizza, gas or bic lighters? The million dollar question. Can you take it across U.S. Customs? Will the borders open up? This has far reaching tenacles! I see as mostly beneficial to the economic and eco systems in America and abroad!
If you pay 35K for a license, is that safe to stay out of jail and lose everything?? I think so!! Who is making the bucks right now?? $30. plus or minus for a gram? You get legal store fronts and business increase's. You will sell more products, not just cannabis. Clones, candy, paraphanellia and growing equipment. This may be a golden opportunity for the businessman! Perhaps, even take over the empty Circuit City stores and start growing right where you are selling? You'll figure a way to pay for the license and turn a big profit. Even if you have to do like Wal-Mart and farm it in China with Chinese workers at $2.00 a day! So, where is the problem? Prepare now.
A liquor license: 35K or buy a used one or pay a minimal fee for Liquor lottory way of getting the license-you forgot to mention that,which is how most individuals get their liquor license-no shortcuts for the poor man?
The dispensaries and Co's will be the new automobile factory for Calif. We are letting criminals out for drug crimes already. We will have fewer prisoners, etc. Legalization would solve a lot of problems. But, we need hemp farmers and put it to use for fuel, clothing, etc.
This ought to be FEDERALLY DECRIMINALIZED AND LEGALIZED! No homegrown restrictions! Compassionate not for profit clubs for patients. We will be happier as a whole nation with lots of sativa and be too happy to complain about our taxes and poorer living situations.
The farmer, grower, patient and consumer will get fucked! Because the businessman has to turn a profit or close and Calif needs its' budget balanced, they will help you, just like the crooks on Wall Street. Now, I am not saying you are crooks-so do not assume that. We know there is a profit. You may not drive a Rolls, but you will have a job and make a decent legal living and not a killing! Or live in fear of jail!!
Nationally-it could solve our eco system and so many things! It won't solve everything. We'll always have problems. They won't seem so devastating with a more mean people on cannabis- U.S.A. Regardless, there are many that will not touch it. I don't drink , smoke or even drink soda pop! I use cannabis as a medication and when I need it. Rarely for pleasure! However, the days of bonding in a circle with a lighter and bong may be things from the 'olden days!' I'll miss that! It isn't like you invite a bunch of people over and pass around a bar of gold and saw for everyone to take a piece. Cannabis will create different problems and hemp for fuel, clothing, etc. would employ more and solve a lot of problems!
Prop 215/420 are still screwed up. You really think they can get this correct!
Face it, this is a divided nation. The election may have been clear and concise, but certainly no landslide! It has to be National. People in CA will be paying more taxes if they pay for it on cannabis and no other state is, or people cannot get it legally! Civil rights for all and now! PR
What do I think, cute little advertisement: Free Medical marijuana to your door, pay for delivery. However, it costs a few hundred more to deliver an ounce than an eigth! that ain't free or even good math or business! Open your eyes, you have much more potential for making money if it is legalized, decriminalized and hemp can be grown.
People won't have to hide and grow, face it there is a generation of lazy people out there that prefer to purchase ready made everything instead of a little eyebrow sweat!
Others dying to grow. Both doing without right now!
You will sell more than you could possibly dream and a larger line of product and even supply a farmer or two! Breathe better air, etc! There is a bigger picture, I think! 2 cents! good thread
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Originally Posted by hedgehog
you are on the right track... weed needs to be legalized with the same laws, regulations, restrictions, and taxes as alcohol..... including minimum age restrictions. The alcohol laws also allow individuals to brew, ferment, distill small amounts for personal use. How kewl would it be to be able to go down to the liquer store, tobacconist,(or weed store) and buy a pack of joints for $20. The quality of the different brands could range from shake from schwag to premium bud like NCDG or Ultra Haze.....priced accordingly like cigars.
Nahhh.....never happen, there is too much money to be made in taxes from it, and the bulls wouldn't have anything to do.
You are greedy Sir and just want all the money for yourself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Medicaldelivery
If you think you are safe in what you do and take advantage of people that need meds you are in the same bed as the huge Pharmacudical companies.
If you think you are safe, Think again.
Do me a favour and call the fed's to come inspect your operation. Local laws are one thing but I bet you are afraid of the fed's. YES ?
Yes please call the feds and the locals and see if the locals will stand up against the FED's for you. We know what the out come will be.
Meds or recreational. Both are a Constitutional right of freedom and laws must change for everyone. The people must cry out like the likes of GOD has never seen for this to changed.
Ignorance never fails to amaze me.
After Loc Nar, I have to put my two cents in as well. I would love to see it legalized, regulated and taxed. And medical, you are just greedy. There wasn't a single word in your post about people's needs or rights.....every single sentence talks about money and mostly about money you want to be yours.
I won't say you're the kind of folks that give mmj a bad name........but you sure don't help our cause any either.