Improving The Joint

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Originally Posted by Sadhus

I've always thought of using cigarette filters inside of joints. Would that work?

I never tried it. I did travel with some hippy
who was convinced that the filters were dangerous, so if I'd try to light up a cig he'd break it, mix the tobacco with some hash and roll a joint :hippy:. I didn't bother arguing with him.

To return to your point: usually a filter is just there so that you have something on your lips that isn't burning weed. I've seen Europeans use tobacco (hand-roll type) for the filter. Some don't even bother with a filter and just throw it away near the end

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in the u.k everyone uses tobacco with a rolled bit of rizla packet (where you would have the filter) we call that the roach. i find an equal amount of hand rolling tobacco and herb smokes and burns great, much better than a blunt, if i want to smoke just herb i use my pipe but allways end up haveing a j straight after the pipe as i dont find the pipe relaxing.:jointsmile:

you could actualy, (what i call it) back roll a joint. where you roll it on the other side of the paper and do some tricky stuff. youtube seach it. also known as inside out joint i think.

i guess it is an improvement because you use less paper = better

Tear off 1/3 of the paper, Making a wet line with your tounge of course lol...

Roll it like you like it,

Than wet the whole joint with your mouth, Suck... the end making it all tight. Than dry it with a lighter, Running over it back and forth without burning it. Dont let the flame hit it..

Than you smoke it...

use a little chillum as a crutch, so you smoke the whole thing. yum! (a lot better than a business card.)

Sadhus: "Something I'd like to see is something better than the hard paper filter. Long, light, solid, absorbs heat.. that would be good."

When you said that it made me think of this cool reed type plant that grows in the bogs and mountains around here.If you strip the green outer layer, there is a cool natural sponge like filler. I think that would make an interesting natural filter type thing. But really, would you be bothered with that..I may try it sometime.
My usual improvement thought is if I'm having trouble getting a nice tightish roll for some reason (blazed, shaky hands due to cold whatever) is to use the credit card trick. Its funny, in all the threads about how to roll and shit I never see this simple method that gives a perfect tuck every time.. Anyone else ever hear of it? Basically you use the edge of a card to get the tuck right, it gives perfect control of how tight, loose it is and what shape you want cone or straight like. Its really quick too. If anyone wants more detail of the method just ask.

In case anyone doesn't know about this:

Instead of rolling the filter in a spiral, fold it into an accordian shape. The pressure keeps the end of the joint spread apart for easy draws. Works best with hash oil spliffs.