probably my deepest, interesting thought ever...

Wee, I noticed that too man. Long before I ever thought of smoking weed, back in like the seventh grade, sometimes I would walk past people smoking weed at school and think, "Man that stinks like a skunk.."

Now it's music to my nose..

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Originally Posted by JD1stTimer

When I was a kid my dad and I talked about that a lot. There are some perceptual differences between people. For instance I enjoy a visual phenomena called "visual snow". My opthalmologist can't understand what's going on, but in dim lighting or low contrast I see what can best be described as a film grain type texture if you know what I mean. In total darkness I see spots, lines, shimmery and wavy things in different shades of mostly green and purple.

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Jesus thats really weird because I experience the same exact thing. So are you trying to say that it's not normal and other people don't see that visual snow? I always thought it was the norm in human beings.

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Originally Posted by Blazed Deafy

i took philosophy recent fall semester and the subject is interesting i have enjoyed hearing different arguments n whatnot. In my opinion, philosophy is pointless but it honed my logical process. it is helpful. the color perception i have thought about it before but it is experiences forms your perception on the world even colors too. Funny thing i was reading article about this blind woman i think her name was mary, (not mary jane mind yall!)who is colorist and studied colors extensively yet she has not experienced the colors. its interesting to think about that especially those people who lives in mental ward. sorry for nonsense im stoned as usual.

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philosophy can be of use when you can identify what people are actually saying and arguing and as you say, I think it helps with your 'logical processes'. It helps you think for yourself instead of relying on arguments based on authority and listen to arguments based on rationality:cool:

If a tree falls in the woods, but there is no one around to hear it, does it really make a sound?

Here's one... How would you describe the color purple to a blind person? Keep in mind you can't say something like it's the color of a grape, because they have no reference to that color. You can't really say it's a combination of blue and red either because that requires a visual reference also, and you'd then have to describe red and blue... so how would you do it?

^^ Thats much like trying to describe how feels to be high to someone who never got high... words cannot possibly explain it, one must experience it to know how it feels... :stoned:

Interesting that this question of how one percieves the colors was re-posted here, cause some time ago i was thinking exactly about this, but extending it to everything... not only the colors, but the thoughts, emotions, feelings, concepts, etc, in fact everything that makes our world is personal. Two persons can be looking at the same thing, but even if what they see were the same, still the thoughts that arise when they look to it, the memories, the feelings, etc, all of this is different for the two people. Each one of us experiences the world in a personal and unique way, shared by no one else. So what we call "the world", "the reality", etc, is not an absolute thing, but only OUR world, OUR reality... so we can say that each person is not only a person, but also a world, cause there is a world inside us all... :stoned:

i have thought about this for so long, and when i entered college it blew my mind to hear other people talk about it. one day i was hanging around this girl i dated, and her roommate just came out and said "okay you know what scares me? that we all see different colors". i instantly knew what she meant.

i've thought about this a lot, and have come to the conclusion that logic must MUSt paly a part in this somehow... like, if my green was your red, then your red would have to be my green. Your red couldn't be my blue, because green and blue are not opposite colors.

Even through somebody elses eyes, the world has order to it, it's not like Red all of the sudden becomes Black's opposite color if we are talking about everyone seeing different colors.

If we had a small conversation about the sky and the grass, and I said it would look funny if the sky were Orange, and not Blue, I think that to someone with "different colors", if my blue was their purple, then the "orange" that i describe would be their "purple".

i seem to be going in circles, not really completing my thought... i guess i just mean there would have to be SOME sort of order... like, each color would still have its respective opposite in the color wheel... if BLUE RED and YELLOW are my primary colors, and you see PURPLE instead of BLUE, then your primary colors are PURPLE ORANGE and GREEN. weird, huh! :)

if im wearing a black shirt and i ask you what color it is, your going to say black

that solves it

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Originally Posted by MPLSweedman

if im wearing a black shirt and i ask you what color it is, your going to say black

that solves it

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but if that person see's differently than you, say, the exact opposite of what you see, they will see what you refer to as WHITE, but have been trained to call it BLACK. so you have not solved anything, friend :smokin:

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^^ Thats much like trying to describe how feels to be high to someone who never got high... words cannot possibly explain it, one must experience it to know how it feels... :stoned:

Take that a step further and you realize that, chemically, we are as different as our fingerprints.
What you peceive as "high" may have nothing in common with what I feel and call "high".

Interesting that this question of how one percieves the colors was re-posted here, cause some time ago i was thinking exactly about this, but extending it to everything... not only the colors, but the thoughts, emotions, feelings, concepts, etc, in fact everything that makes our world is personal. Two persons can be looking at the same thing, but even if what they see were the same, still the thoughts that arise when they look to it, the memories, the feelings, etc, all of this is different for the two people. Each one of us experiences the world in a personal and unique way, shared by no one else. So what we call "the world", "the reality", etc, is not an absolute thing, but only OUR world, OUR reality... so we can say that each person is not only a person, but also a world, cause there is a world inside us all... :stoned:

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Gives a different meaning to Paul Simon's line.
"One man's ceiling is another man's floor, ya?
Food for thought.:stoned:

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