Secondhand Smoke?

I lived in Holland for a lot of years and I had arranged for my sister to meet me at a friends house.
Everyone except my sis smoked and we always hit it hard when we were together, after about 15 minutes the room was full of smoke.
My sis got so shitfaced from the smoke in the room that she giggled all the way home on the back of my bike , it was good because usually she was a very stiff passenger and this time she just relaxed.

That was many years ago and she still blushes when I mention it.
It was the first time she had ever been high and it was just from what was floating in the air.

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Originally Posted by psychocat

I lived in Holland for a lot of years and I had arranged for my sister to meet me at a friends house.
Everyone except my sis smoked and we always hit it hard when we were together, after about 15 minutes the room was full of smoke.
My sis got so shitfaced from the smoke in the room that she giggled all the way home on the back of my bike , it was good because usually she was a very stiff passenger and this time she just relaxed.

That was many years ago and she still blushes when I mention it.
It was the first time she had ever been high and it was just from what was floating in the air.

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Of course you are right Psychocat. Smoke does not magically stop containing THC once exhaled. :) I would love to be in a room of smoke right now....

doesn't anybody else know if you want to get really high shut yourself in a small confined space like a car etc. I believe I've seen the Beatles (one at a time)getting in a 55 gallon drum with a joint and then having someone shut the lid on them. Then there's smoking inside a gas mask........these methods all use confining the smoke to get higher.

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Originally Posted by LolaGal

Of course you are right Psychocat. Smoke does not magically stop containing THC once exhaled. :) I would love to be in a room of smoke right now....

doesn't anybody else know if you want to get really high shut yourself in a small confined space like a car etc. I believe I've seen the Beatles (one at a time)getting in a 55 gallon drum with a joint and then having someone shut the lid on them. Then there's smoking inside a gas mask........these methods all use confining the smoke to get higher.

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Exactly! Why do you think we hotbox stuff, because its cool to be in a car full of smoke? NO, you do it to get higher lol! I don't see why this is even a debate... smoking out small confined areas has been done forever.

No one's studying this from a medical standpoint that I know of. But of course people can get high from secondhand smoke. For one thing, anyone in a confined space isn't just breathing in exhaled smoke that's already passed through the active smoker's lungs. They're also breathing in primary smoke from the joint (or whatever) is being burned nearby. Flight attendants got cancer from secondhand cigarette smoke, or at least they did back when smoking was routinely allowed on airplanes. The atmospheric smoke contains the same crap that active smokers are breathing in. Plus exhaled weed smoke doesn't come out stripped of its active ingredients. So people who are in the same vicinity as smokers are getting two types of exposure that could lead to getting high.

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Originally Posted by linearvermin

P.S. Don't appreciate you calling my friend a "Nut Job." He's most likely a lot smarter then you are so don't go around calling people names.

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I didn't call your friend a nutjob. Learn to read.

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Originally Posted by painretreat

...the ability to alter your mind intentionally is not exactly what you'd call a "nut job". Some seek training to find that skill and must be very introspective and they don't expect people with limited understanding of people to really understand what they are talking about.

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I agree with all three of those points.

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Originally Posted by painretreat

It is my experience, most "nut jobs' don't have much choice where their mind takes them. And could use a little compassion. Those that work on 'experienceing' life as they are enduring it= a lot of work! PR :D

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And I agree with that, basically. Hey, I have compassion. I'm taking the time to agree with you so your tender emotions aren't damaged any further aren't I?

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Originally Posted by Dave Byrd

No one's studying this from a medical standpoint that I know of. But of course people can get high from secondhand smoke. For one thing, anyone in a confined space isn't just breathing in exhaled smoke that's already passed through the active smoker's lungs. They're also breathing in primary smoke from the joint (or whatever) is being burned nearby. Flight attendants got cancer from secondhand cigarette smoke, or at least they did back when smoking was routinely allowed on airplanes. The atmospheric smoke contains the same crap that active smokers are breathing in. Plus exhaled weed smoke doesn't come out stripped of its active ingredients. So people who are in the same vicinity as smokers are getting two types of exposure that could lead to getting high.

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No offense Dave but you don't know what you're talking about. Secondhand smoke from a burning material released into the atmosphere is not the equivalent of direct inhalation via a smoking apparatus such as a pipe or rolling papers. And you're confusing basic toxicity of tobacco with the concentration of THC required when released into the open environment for one to become intoxicated.

But that's ok, roll yourself another one. A big phat one. And don't wave it around in the air and pretend to get high, hit that baby.

Cheers.

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Originally Posted by leadmagnet

No offense Dave but you don't know what you're talking about.

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Well... Dave is one of the doctors of cann.com. He is a real doctor (a cardiologist), so i think his opinion should not be disregarded that easily... unless you also be a doctor, of course.

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Originally Posted by Coelho

Well... Dave is one of the doctors of cann.com. He is a real doctor (a cardiologist), so i think his opinion should not be disregarded that easily... unless you also be a doctor, of course.

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Eh, maybe he's stoned.

Actually there have been studies conducted to determine the amount of cannabis smoke required in closed environments to create detectable levels of THC in the bloodstream. I'm not saying it can't be done... but Jesus. In the studies I've seen it has taken a tremendous amount, and not quantities produced by the casual experimenter with a sack of herb. Granted, it can be done though and is actually done at certain events, cough, cough. But look at the equipment they're using. Can that really be considered "secondhand smoke"?

"2nd hand high" is possible. The lungs can't be efficient enough to capture 100% of the THC you inhale, especially as you age.

It was me and three buddies on a "roadie" (drive and toke). One of my buddies quit smoking, but he didn't mind being around it. After we arrived at our destination(frisbee golf course), he noticeably was acting goofy. He admitted to feeling a little high.


As for a total mental contact high(w/o inhaling any 2nd hand smoke), you would be surprised what the brain is capable of doing with its naturally-occuring chemicals. Something, as in being around someone high, can "trigger" your brain to start producing neurotransmitters that can mock being high. This is a little more extreme, but what do you think flash backs are.