he does, Bill Ayers is a terrorist and in any other country he'd be in prisonQuote:
Originally Posted by dragonrider
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Originally Posted by dragonrider
that's a question a lot of us would like an answer to
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he does, Bill Ayers is a terrorist and in any other country he'd be in prisonQuote:
Originally Posted by dragonrider
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Originally Posted by dragonrider
that's a question a lot of us would like an answer to
Obama was 8 years old when Ayers was in the weather underground. He's not affiliated with the Obama campaign and he never will be. They served together on an education board in Illinoise, where other republicans also served on. Drop this pathetic point, they're not pals. Ayers is a professer now.
Racism is disgusting, i would never associate with anyone who was racist, those people sicken me. Good on Mccain for defending Obama and telling the people to respect him :thumbsup:
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Originally Posted by Reefer Rogue
if Bill Ayers was a pedophile that had avoided prison because of technicalities
it wouldn't matter how long ago he had done what he had done. especially
since he still holds the same views to this day.
and Barry was well past 8 years old when he chose to associate himself with
an unrepentent domestic terrorist.
even in 2001 Ayers was saying he wished he had bombed more.
frankly, i think he should be shot as a traitor to America. with citizens
like him, we don't need enemies.
and McCain has been a total gentleman throughout his campaign, frankly, i
think that's why he's been behind in the polls
The only reason people give Bill Ayers a free pass is because of how he is perceived. Because Bill Ayers did not go to jail people perceive that what he did was not that bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by justanotherbozo
Fact is that he got off on a technicality.. fact is that his buddies are in Jail and I don't see anyone in here saying that the other members of the weather underground should be set free... fact is that he is unrepentent as shown by the NY times interview as well as an interview done by PBS. Fact is that he/his organization bombed several government sites and put other people into harms way.
If Bill Ayers was in Jail right now no one would be making the claim that Bill Ayers is innocent or that Bill Ayers is Harmless. Fact is that regardless of how old Obama was when he committed those acts is irrelevant. What is relevant is the age at which he conciously knew what Ayers had done; that he was unrepentent and proud of his actions... He knew that Ayers was guilty and only got off on a technicality.
That is the argument.. and that is the problem that a vast number of people have with him.
How can you fight terrorism and yet be friends with a terrorist?
What if Obama had been friends with Timothy McVeigh? Would you still feel the same way?
edit: it should be noted my reply was in response to Reefer Rogue.. I simply used justanotherbozo's post to kind of add on to it.
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Originally Posted by daihashi
thanks for clarifieing that, i didn't go into as much detail as you because most
Obama supporters don't really want to hear the facts, they want to be
innocent, believing that Republicans are evil and the kindly Democrats will
rescue them.
that's the biggest problem i have with the Democrats, they want to absolve
us all of responsibility, so they can save us!
i don't want charity, i want a government that gets the fuck out of the way
kind of like what Thomas Jefferson wanted.
"Please show me where McCain has been a racist."
- ok
"I hate the gooks. I will hate them as long as I live."
- John McCain, February 2000
"I will call right now, my interrogator that tortured me, a gook."
- John McCain, February 2000
remember the propaganda lie about obama's wife using the term 'whitey'? that got a lot of coverage in the media...mccain's *real* racist slurs weren't even raised during this campaign...dem dum dems are just too damn polite
Please source your information or else it's just heresay. I'm interested to see where you got this information or whether it's highly publicized.Quote:
Originally Posted by maladroit
And I don't remember a lie about Obama's wife saying whitey. Maybe I was living under a rock, but I highly doubt it or I disregarded it because I'm more intelligent than to fall for crap like that.Quote:
remember the propaganda lie about obama's wife using the term 'whitey'? that got a lot of coverage in the media...mccain's *real* racist slurs weren't even raised during this campaign...dem dum dems are just too damn polite
A quick google search shows that no major news publication has him quoted as saying that.. only blogs and a website called "the daily campus".
I used your quotes as a mean of searching.
hmmm...pehaps your safesearch filter is enabled on your google page...i get lots of hits but i am not surprised that you haven't heard of this...the MSM was very kind to mccain before he recently stuck his head in a noose for them
a few mccain gook sources:
John McCain's racist remark very troubling
McCain Criticized for Slur / He says he'll keep using term for ex-captors in Vietnam
The Dishonor Of An American Hero - Commentary: The Post Chronicle
if mccain didn't say it, then why did he officially apologize for using the term "gook" for so many years?
AsianWeek: Feature: McCain Apologizes for 'Gook' Comment
you were offended by the use of the word 'redneck' recently...how do you feel about the word 'gook'? how would you feel if a politician running for president had not only used that word, but defended the use of the word by saying:
"I can't believe that anybody doesn't believe these interrogators and prison guards were cruel and sadistic people who deserve the worst appellations possible. Gook is the kindest appellation I can give."
- John McCain, Feb 2000, two days before flip flopping on the kindest appellation
read those quotes again, and replace 'gook' with the N-word (which is verbotten on this forum)...ya think a simple apology would erase all reports of that from the media? mccain got an easy ride from the MSM, while obama had to endure all sorts of racist propaganda against him
I do find it offensive... can you find me more than 1 instance where McCain has used a racist term that does not refer to the Asian race?; something he is obviously very upset about considering his torture and treatment while he was a POW?Quote:
Originally Posted by maladroit
While I do find it offensive you're comparing apples to oranges.. again; like usual.. you're reaching to try to prove your agenda. There is strong reason why this was not published by national news coverage.
Again as in the other thread.. continue on your agenda.