My sexy Afghan first grow with CFLs

GG84 you are right, I do have two of the same fans, one running in and one running out. I guess my idea was that one could pump in cool while the other pumped out warm, but I suppose that is an inefficient use of the energy. With the use of negative air flow I can move twice the air with the same amount of energy.

I am going to try that tonight and I will update you on the temp change next time. Lets pray for some cute little sproutlings for the AM.

Golden, I won't make the mistake of thanking you for the help again. ;)

Keep the peace everyone.

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right on. i did some searching for an article i'd seen here before. long post but you could read over the "How much fan do I need?" section. he states that its personal opinion and experience but he has some solid equations and even a little guide to getting temps under control with your fan.
p.s. i also didn't look in that article for it, but i know i remember hearing/reading that your intake should be twice as large as your exhaust (4" exhaust = 8" intake). here's the link to that article.
http://boards.cannabis.com/basic-gro...g-hot-air.html

Alright, so 2 days ago I see the seed start to pop out and I get all excited. Except now its been almost 2 days and it doesn't look like anything is happening. There are little roots coming out of each seed and into the soil but it doesn't look like it is trying to move upwards. It is kind of just sitting there. I have been misting the soil every 12 hours or so and the temp is at about 80-85 F.

Do you think I am over watering? Or it is too hot? What would make the "plant" very limp and weak like that? I feel like it isn't trying to create a root system or anything.

I am hoping I haven't doomed my babies already.

I'll try to snap some pics and post them but any help would be appreciated.

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Ok, after researching for a few hours, I think I ended up over watering my little seeds. Basically everytime the top soil looked dry, I would spray some water on it. Turns out that underneath was still fully saturated, so I am assuming I ended up just rotting the seeds.

I've started a couple more seeds, 2 out of the 3 I have left, so hopefully this time I won't mess it up. I am going to use dixie cups this time instead of going into the big pot right away. I have to leave for the weekend so I am hoping to just throw them in there and leave them and come back to some beauties haha.

If anyone can see anything I am blatantly screwing up, please let me know, otherwise, I will update on Monday!

Oh here are some pics of the box with the new intake hole and the exhaust fan. Also there are a couple of pics of the one seedling that may be alive? it could also just be rotting in place, but the green made me think it was possibly surviving a bit? Let me know what you think. Oh and sorry about the big pics, apparently I can't attached thumbnails until I post 50 times.

Peace
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Alright, I just got back from a little vacation and my babies are alive! Not bad considering that I attempted to germinate for about 36 hrs, didn't see much happening and so threw them in the soil and left for 3 days. Turns out just letting them be works a lot better then checking on them every hour.

I've got to take care of a few things right now, but I will be posting the new pictures in a couple hours.

Peace
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hey there, just stopping by to see if i can help.

actually, GoldenGraham has given you some good advice, especially
regarding the fans. you will see a big difference with both fans blowing
out the top and pulling from a passive intake at the bottom.

here's a thread i think you'll get some ideas from, and come by my
imaginary garden, you might find some inspiration there as well
http://boards.cannabis.com/grow-log/...-grow-log.html

anyway, good luck

Hey bozo, thanks for stopping by and checking things out. After you posted I spent the evening carefully reading about your imaginary garden. It sounded like an amazing set-up and I am a true believer in "ghetto grows" since I too am on a limited budget. You have also inspired me to try a hydro system next grow ... for whatever reason a lot of other posts about creating a homemade hydro system have seemed much too complicated and intricate for me to produce (understanding that I know nothing about hydroponics). Anyways, it seems like with a bit more research (I have around 3 months) and some strategic purchases, I think I should be able to make a beautiful new system for my babies. I am a large advocate of lists and notes, so my new notebook has begun!

Anyways, thanks for the suggestions on the threads, they all contain good information. I get so excited about my ladies that all I can do to keep my mind occupied is sit on here and read all this amazing information.

I'm about to post my new pictures of one of the ladies that came up, so I hope everyone enjoys. I know making that find this afternoon really made my day!

Keep it real.

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Alright, finally, pics of my new lady. The other one just broke the surface, so assuming I don't kill it somehow in the next 12-24 hrs, it should be up and fighting for a place in the lights with the other one.

I only have one light (105w) running right now because it didn't seem to me that they really needed all the lumens (and the heat that goes with them) at the moment. I guess when both get a little bigger I will turn on the other light.

Oh and just a comment on the exhaust situation: I still only have one fan installed at the top but I have cut a large intake hole towards the bottom (prob 2.5x to 3x the size of the fan exhaust). So far, this is working amazingly well. The temp in the box is staying at a consistent 80F, depending on the outside (outside the box) temperature.

Anyways, I know that this thing is tiny, but I think all growers can understand the first time something comes up and how exciting that moment is.

So let me know what you think.

Peace

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Hooray! i know the feeling! 80 degrees isn't bad. not optimal, but definitely do-able. i'm super glad for you and when you get into hydro, i can give a bit of advice there. no expert, but mildly experienced.

hey gg84, thanks for sharing in my joy, good to see you again.

Things are going well in general. I have two ladies up now and they seem to growing a decent pace. I guess what I am wondering is a couple of things if anyone out there can help:

1) Watering: They are each in a plastic dixie cup with slots cut in the bottom. I watered them fully before I put them in the soil on Friday, left for 3 days and saw they were up so I gave them a bit more water (a light spraying basically). The next day the leaves started drooping a bit more then when I first saw them so I thought possibly overwatering. I didn't water for two days (now being 48 hrs) and it continued to droop a bit. SO I thought perhaps they didn't have enough water? I stuck my finger in the soil near the edge up to about half way to my second knuckle and it was relatively dry. I gave them a good drink like 15 minutes ago, so I guess I am wondering if I did the right thing? I have been doing all this reading on watering and I can't figure out a good amount or time period for watering. Any help would be hugely appreciated. Any idea on how long until I will be able to tell if the water makes a difference?

2) Re-potting: I've read 5-7 days of growth before re-potting a seedling to a larger container. Assuming the first one (which happens to be the drooping one) came up on Sunday, that makes today 4 days. I was thinking I'd just wait until Friday to re-pot but I don't want to cause any damage be re-potting too early or too late. I assume if I see roots coming out the slots in the bottom then that is a pretty clear sign of being root-bound. Anyways, any suggestion on transplants would be cool.

I'm snapping some pictures right now of the current growth so you can see what I mean by drooping and such.

Keep it real everyone.

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