First grow - Help me grow my baby, it's drooping!!

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Originally Posted by Weedhound

I DO use a product called rhizotonic for my roots but its fairly expensive and not a necessary with a quality soil like FH or FFOF. ;)

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I was @ hydro shop the other day and they were saying that product is coming off the market and the 10 bottles they have left is it! better get them while you can they said, they were xpensive I only had $10 so I couldn't get any
just aheadsup maybe stock up on it if you like it :D

good dirt
proper size container
decent lighting
normal water

let mother nature do the rest
dont feed until at least til min of 5 knode.
l8r

yeah looks a lil to wet

sup ILLn

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Thanks to all for replies thus far!!

As for the comment of the soil being wet, as I said, yes it's VERY wet because I just flushed. I woke up this morning and the soil is still quite wet, so I will just be patient and let it dry out for a day or two.

I have a few more questions if y'all don't mind:

1) Can I get this Happy Frog Soil in HD or Lowe's? If so, what specific model and #-#-#?

2) Should I try to put some ST in there before trying new soil and see what happens? OR switch directly to Happy Frog (which I don't have money for right now, I really don't but I get paid on Friday)? OR "let mother nature do its thing" and wait for the 5th node?

I'm sorry but everyone suggests different things and I don't know which advice to follow... I am leaning more towards letting it chill a bit like illnillinois said . If it doesn't work in a couple of days and things are getting worst I'll try adding some ST at a drop per gallon (is that enough?, container says 1/4 teaspoon). If that doesn't work then I will switch soils on the baby and take it from there.

I'll keep you guys updated, so please stick around! Thanks so much!!

Any other additional comments are more than welcome.

Here's an update.

I left the plant alone for 2 whole days without watering after that flush. Things were looking a little better, so I decided to give it some more water (I always wait till the top soil is dry and put my finger into the soil to see if it's wet below). Since it wasn't "wet" (rather barely humid) I decided to give it some water with a minuscule amount of SuperThrive (about a drop a gallon).

Then things kept going worst. Now the first node (the round leaves) are completely yellow (which I read it's normal). But the next node (with the first serrated leaves) is now almost completely yellow (except in the part really close to the stem where the leaves get a little shade from the top leaves, it's still a little green). The yellowing of these leaves did not start at a specific point really. They kind of just became yellow all around. But I don't think that's normal because they have the biggest surface area and thus the highest chance for the plant of getting light.

The top node is still growing and it's still coming out, but I want to fix the problem before it gets un-fixable for the top leaves.

At least the top leaves are a little greener than before (BARELY) but are STILL droopy!! WHY??? What am I doing wrong? Do you think it's the MG?

I am worried pH might be too low but have not checked it again since that previous flush. Would soil pH of 6 be too low? If so how do I increase it? What else could it be??

I am going insane!! Please help!!!

Here are updated pics at almost 3 weeks old.

I wanted to ask something that's been on my mind for a while.

I've read that MJ likes to go through wet and dry cycles. But I've also read that you should keep the soil moist at all times. I go by the "wet and dry" method, but I let it be wet for about 2 days and then once the soil is dry I water immediately. Should this be done in equal cycles of "wet" and "dry" periods? So should I let the plant be dry for a couple of days as well or not?

Please someone tell me this.

Thanks all.

PS: Note that I've taken pics right at the watering day yet again. Sorry!

do like you are "water then wait couple days too dry them then water again plants looking ok 1 drop per gal ST sounds good
youg seedlings are very easy to overwater be patient if it takes 3 days or 4 days thats what it takes, it all depends on conditions in room heat/humidity ;)
light i would buy more light if your that broke instead of the FF/OC soil and no you can't get it at HD/LOWES

Looks familiar. It's probably a combination of pH and the MG being too hot for the seedling. In the past, I had to take them out of the pre-fertilized soil and put them in some seedling starter mix. I'm not exactly sure what your next course of action should be... they can pull through, but like I said, in my case I had to do some careful careful transplanting. Prior to that, I just sat there and watched them do absolutely nothing while they stood there in shock.

The first set of leaves, Cotyledons, will usually fall off. They are mostly for that first growth spurt. No biggie.

Cannabis does like a wet/dry cycle... but the time of those periods will vary depending on strain/conditions. You don't really want it to get completely BONE dry... but you want to notice the weight difference between that, and a freshly watered pot. Once you pick it up and go "Woah, that's light" it's time to water :rasta:

Oh, and I wouldn't really expect any damaged foliage to gain its old luster back. To get an idea as to how the plant is doing currently... focus on the top 1/3 of the plant. Damaged leaves will usually either stay the same... get worse... or just fall off. As long as the plant is growing up and out... you're doing at least 1 thing right :thumbsup::thumbsup:

The next time you add perlite, mix it into the soil. Sprinkling it on top does no good.
Miracle Grow soils are a bit hot for seedlings, but just keep in mind it already has nutes. It's good-to-go for about a month before needing to start a regular nute schedule. I used it very sucessfully for years, and the soil I use right now is even hotter.

Ease-up on watering, but don't let it remain dry for more than a day. Don't add nutes or ammendments for a week or two at least, and try to keep from overheating it. You do have a fan on it, right?

Thanks for the feedback all.

Yes, I do have a fan, but just a ceiling fan blowing at full blast all day. Plant gets a small breeze

I think the plant will pull through this rough patch if the new growth is looking good like you've said.

Could someone approve my list of nutes and ammendments to add that I will use in two weeks? I fear this is the hardest part to come.

So far I will get this:

New Soil Mix consisting of:

- 70% Fox Farm Happy Frog Potting Soil (what's the difference with the Ocean Forest FF? should I buy both and mix them together at a certain ratio? Is Happy Frog for vegging and FFOC for flowering? Please explain this)
- 30% Perlite (any vermiculite you think?)

For nutes, I will use:

-FF Big Bloom, Grow Big and Tiger Bloom Trio. I've heard some good things about it. (should I just follow the directions and start at 1/4, then 1/2, then 1?, but at what rate do I do this? Every week is ok? Every watering?)

I will also transplant into bigger pot because I see some roots starting to come out from the bottom holes (YEAAAHH!!)

Allright. I apologize for my noobness and constant questioning of everything. I REALLY want to do this right.

THANKS!