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From outside, America is the land of the free, from inside that freedom has a gazillion amendments and limitations.

As soon as my life lets me, i'm going to canada or netherlands or spain or portugal or some goddamn hell-hole that they dont send your ass to jail and take your home for buncha plants for personal consumption. go ahead get the "grow houses" but if my house for that matter gets siezed for less plants than fingers of one hand in a 10x10 closet, ill be damn hopeless and disappointed in america and humanity and justice altogether!

and I cant agree more that no party but only the "libertarians" like ron paul would really do anything to change the legal situation. and no I do not support any party at all, i've just given up on politics, the goods never make it and the bads, well they are bad regardless of sides and their covers!

I think everyone should watch the extras on the dvd for american drug war: the last white hope!

American Drug War: The Last White Hope - War on Drugs

there is an long version of the interview with tommy chong (and his family almost brought me to tears and I dont cry!). He says that during the raid federal officers were ran sacking his house and one said we got it! and what he was referring to was 20K in cash. Not a link to the company they wanted to shut down...not pounds of grass. But cold hard american currency. even thou it would be easy to prove that an actor at chong's level could make 20k in an afternoon... it doesnt matter! they are a legal form of the mob. if they want it, they take. come on, did anyone find the movie training day far fetched? I didnt!

I personally know a kid that was doing about 120mph in his car... yes, hes dumb. he got pulled over. he is a rich foreign national that was afraid that his visa would be rejected. he handed his paperwork to the cop with 2K in plain site. The pig came back handed him his paperwork, never said a word and left! you're kidding yourself if you think that cops dont buy their kids Christmas gifts with your cash. many police depts. slush funds are public information... go look up your local police, you may be surprised!

You are wrong about the democrats. Are they as favorible toward legalization and liberalization as the Green party or Ron Paul? No. BUT...

The democrats are much more liberal on drug laws then Republicans. Do democrats want it legalized? No. But democratic led states are *much* more likely to enact "medical compassion" laws that allow growing for personal, medicinal use.

Obama is not "letting people believe" shit. He is talking as straight as straight can be. He said he is not for legalization (which is sad), however, he also has said he would STOP the Federal Government from enforcing federal drug laws in California. That is HUGE. The courts have said the Feds can enforce federal laws even though California law opposes it, and the Bush administration is making the DEA do it. McCain would do the same thing. However, the courts have not said the Feds HAVE TO enforce those laws over and above the State's laws. As Executive over the DEA, Obama probably could stop them from kicking in medical patients and dispensaries doors in California. That would be fucking GREAT. And he has said he would do it.

I saw the town hall meeting where he said it. A medical patient asked him straight up, and Obama paused, thought, and then said... "as president I would not allow the Federal government to stop medical patients from getting marijuana in California... it is a waste of resources."

McCain, when asked the same question, turned his back on the woman and asked someone for another question, as if she wasn't even worth an answer.

Obama is not perfect. He is an idiot on some issues, but right on track on others. He graduated from Harvard Law school for goodness sakes, and was editor-in-chief of their Law Review. That is the equivalent to being top of the class... of the most prestigious law school in the country! It is a HUGE honor. McCain, on the other hand, is an idiot on ALL issues. He's a fucking idiot who graduated next to last in his class, and he didn't even get into his acadamy except that his daddy was high up in the Navy.

Any stoner who votes for McCain over Obama should be forced to smoke schwag soaked in cow piss.

I'm done now.

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Go ahead and start shitting in your other hand while you wait, the answer is not the "democrats" getting in power. If you hadn't noticed, they controll congress right now, and up until the Bill Clinton years, they controlled congress for about 30 years straight. The cannabis prohibition knows no party lines. Both parties are equally ignorant on this issue. The difference is most democrats are willing to "let you believe" that they would be pro-cannabis, and will not go out of there way to correct that perspective, a la Barack Obama.:wtf: While most republicans won't be deceptive just to gain the votes of an ignorant few.

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So for 30 years while congress and washington was run by the democrats it just slipped their mind to remove cannabis from the sched of narcotics?
OK.:thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by jsn9333

Any stoner who votes for McCain over Obama should be forced to smoke schwag soaked in cow piss.

I'm done now.

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Anyone that decides to vote for president based solely on their position in regards to cannabis is completely clueless.
Those are some of the voters Obama is counting on though!
Did you watch the the Democratic Primary Debates that were broadcast nationally? I guess not. Would you like another glass of kool aid now?:wtf::thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by 8182KSKUSH

So for 30 years while congress and washington was run by the democrats it just slipped their mind to remove cannabis from the sched of narcotics?
OK.
. . . Anyone that decides to vote for president based solely on their position in regards to cannabis is completely clueless.
Those are some of the voters Obama is counting on though!
Did you watch the the Democratic Primary Debates that were broadcast nationally? I guess not. Would you like another glass of kool aid now?:wtf::thumbsup:

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Kool aid? Why are cannabis forums gathering places for fucking conspiracy theorists. No one is offering anyone cool aid. Both men most likely have decent intentions. I have seen no proof of anything to the contrary (though I'm sure you conspiracy theorists have seen all the proof you need).

Who said anyone was voting for Obama soley b/c of his position on cannabis? The difference between the two is one of IQ and ability to make coherent decisions all around the board. For instance, Obama knew not to buy the "weapons of mass destruction" bullshit Bush threw around. McCain was stupid enough to buy it hook, line, and sinker. Obama 1, McCain 0.

Again, look at their educational achievements (or lack thereof). One of them is a fucking dunce, the other is bright as can be. That is probably why one of them sees it as wrong to kick down medical patients doors, and the other wants to keep doing it. Obama 2, McCain 0. The list goes on and on.

As far as democrats over the last 30 years... times change. Segregation was legal with support of both parties 60 years ago. Get with the picture. Times are a'changing. McCain is fucking a dumbass who only succeeded b/c his dad was a rich, high up Naval officer. I'm tired of being embarrassed by a president who is a complete idiot and can't even make complete sentences. At least he is smarter then bush, but that's not saying much.

this is sad (((( to think we could loose our home, we built, from the ground up because of 2 plants, for 2 plants!



whats next sensors on our home doorways?


dam crooks I hope they choke on it!




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Indiana dunes shoreline claimed to have accidently found 5000 herbies
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