Schapelle Corby

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Originally Posted by sarah louise

Schapelle's only risk of dying in Bali will be dying from self pity. She has a lot to be sorry for though, she would have done 10 years after her sentence was lightened to 15 (with remission bonuses for xmas, birthdays and good behaviour) but stupidity has already blown it back out to 20 years. If people want to give money to couriers who get snatched, there are other Australian's actually facing the death penalty in Indonesia.

ps Her trip of a life time back in 2004 was the 6th time she had visited Bali. She wasn't a noob.

Last point - The Balinese are Hindus rather than Muslims and the drug trade exists solely to service the Australian (and other) tourists who go there for cheap holidays.

Ganja is alien to the local culture, the local psychedelic is a fungus that goes nice with eggs.

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All the things you have said I already know, thanks for the info though. Dosent her sister LIVE in bali and married to a bali citizen?? One thing im curious about, was her sister married to the man from Bali before or after she was caught?? So the 6 times im sure were to visit her sister who lived there right? I understand there are many people locked up in those type's of situations. I guess the whole HBO documentary thing really hit on a lot of emotions of people over here. The asshole that I personally think ruined it is that Used car salesmen(maybe TV salesman I cant think of it off hand) over in Australia, when he went public about the bribe money... im sure shit would have gone a lot better if he dident open his mouth. I understand being an Aussie yourself you are probably sick of hearing about the whole thing and tired of seeing her whine and moan on TV. However I could not imagine what the girl is going through. There was no fingerprint evidence on the bag, hell it could have been her brother or somthing that switched the bag. The bottomline is the judicial system is fucked up over there. Anyone whether they be australian, indonesian etc etc in my opinion deserves a fair trial and all evidence investigated to the fullest. I guess im sounding like the normal american wanting to push his views of freedom on other countries, but in this case its straight F'ed up, 20 years with no fingerprints... Bottom line to me is she was NOT given a fair trial, all the evidence was touched by 10 million cops there was evidence MISSING (bali cops prolly were grabbing handfulls for themselves to sell, the corrupt pieces of shit). I have even written our Australian embassy in washington and received a very positive letter in return. I'll stand behind Mis Corby until she receives a fair trial (impossible in indonesia), so I guess my monthly donations via paypal will be for the long haul!

Rob... I suspect you are wasting your time, as I am, with some of these people.

I see a woman in a hell hole for a barbaric 20 YEARS for a dope offence. I see her pain and suffering. It hurts.

I see a show trial: refusing to test the dope, burning it, and the rest.

I see the media smearing her family with often ludicrous stories, again and again and again. Drip drip drip brainwashing of a population.

I see a government doing nothing to help a citizen who has had her legal and human rights walked all over, both during the trial and after.


Some people are perfectly happy with this. They have no empathy with her suffering, and no compassion at all.

I am eternally grateful that I am not like that.

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Originally Posted by SteveV

Rob... I suspect you are wasting your time, as I am, with some of these people.

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Just as I would be wasting my time debunking any more of your bullshit or responding to your moralising.

We each base our opinions on a set of experiences. Yours have lead you to believe Ms Corby is a helpless victim of circumstances beyond her control.

Mine lead me to believe that so long as she is in Bali and the family is busy scamming dollars online, Australia is a better place :thumbsup:

Salamat Siang

Sara Lou

This is a good example of what has gone on. Here we have yet more totally and utterly unsubstantiated smears against her family.

No: I am being FAR too generous. It is a fact that the donation account is legally audited by a third party. I checked that personally before contributing myself.

So here we have false allegations of corruption against a family in desperate need of help. Ignoring the moral dimension, it is probably illegal. Frankly, if I were the family I would now be seeking the identity of the person above and taking appropriate legal action.

The mods might want to consider the above post, with respect to the forum being used as a platform for such an act. They also wish to consider the motive. Come on guys.

It is such a good example of all that is depressing that I took a screenshot of the page for my records here in England (indeed: I am not connected at with the family/etc in any way). Very very sad.

And meanwhile, the worst part of all... Shapelle continues to suffer in that squalid cell.

See how the focus has been re-directed here from the real issues? A splendid case in point. :(

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Originally Posted by SteveV

And meanwhile, the worst part of all... Shapelle continues to suffer in that squalid cell.

See how the focus has been re-directed here from the real issues? A splendid case in point. :(

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The real issue is.

Do you believe in her innocence ? I don't

I know the penalty for smuggling in Europe because many years ago I got caught doing just that, I know the comparative sentence would be much higher in other countries but it would still be my choice to attempt it.
You go pulling on the tigers tail then sooner or later you're going to get bitten. :D

No: it isn't as simple as that. Nothing like.

The real issue is should she be spending 20 YEARS in an Indonesian prison cell. No. That is absolutely grotesque, and disproportionate, whether she did it or not.

I don't think she did it for one second. But regardless, another massive issue: the nature of the show trial. A complete and utter breach of legal and human rights. Incredible.

Then everything that as followed, from the constant smears on her family, to the use of a sedated/drugged Schapelle Corby even this week for Indonesian photographic propaganda.

Simplifying it hides a raft or evils, which would have raised eyebrows even in the middle ages.

Here's a thought, how about you quit bashing everyone who doesn't believe what you believe huh?...

Indonesia is a very different place than the UK or the US...people don't have the same rights there as they do here...

Let it go...you already got yelled at once

Sorry, but where am I bashing anyone? I am not: I simply state my opinion (and this is a forum, you know). Please read my words.

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Originally Posted by SteveV

Frankly, if I were the family I would now be seeking the identity of the person above and taking appropriate legal action

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Right there, you were implying that, if you were the family, you would be inclined to take legal action against Sarah Louise's words for her stating that she doesn't believe what you believe...

Why are you so wrapped up in this when there's mass genocide going on in Sierra Lione and other African countries? Do you think that's fair? Do you want to rant about how the murderers are killing the residents of diamond mines and then selling the stolen "blood diamonds" on the open market?...

Buddy you just gotta chill out...