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how big is your grow room/chamber a420? I thought about using comp fans but ended up going with a 7" household fan that I disaseembled and made a new bracket for to essentially turn it into a muffin fan like what your using. Im waiting until something actually smells before I get the carbon filter/make one. Im still working on getting the cabinet sealed so that the only inlet is a super fine heater/ac filter that i took apart and used the fabric to stretch across the inlet hole.
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Originally Posted by a420seeker
Basically you are still running the waterfarm as usual but the only difference is that you put an airstone in your reservoir section to keep the nutes oxygenated as well as the airstone stirring up the nutes constantly. When your plants roots start working their way into the reservoir it will promote vigorous root growth and the plant will start to feed right out the reservoir as well as off the drip system feed.
get yourself a new coke bottle keep the top on and don't poke holes in the bottom. Move the light further away otherwise u will get a dangerous greenhouse effect instead of a humity dome effect. Don't worry about stretch and stem strength right now. All you want it to do is root. Even if it fell over that would be ok. It will pick itself up. Seedlings are tough. Most use clones.
You're gonna do great just don't overlove your plant. If you want more humidity spray the inside of the bottle with water.
I can just tape the bottom holes closed if need be but why the top? Is the hole just way to big now? It does have a couple roots just barely coming out of the bottom so I thought part of the stunted growth might just be it spending its energy on root development. Im just really nervous with this one because if it doesnt go, then I have to wait until after thanksgiving to even start again. I will get another coke bottle tomorrow soon as I can if need be. Thanks for the help herbie!
Check it out man. You do not want any holes right now because you need the humidity to be as high as possible with seedlings. They will root much better with a complete dome cover. That is why when you see seedling trays... they come with dome covers to keep all that great moisture in... no air holes or anything like that. Like Herbie said, no holes and don't worry about the seedlings falling over... yet what I have always done in the past and now is I use little flossers that you can get like a bag of 30 for a dollar at any dollar store usually. They work great at holding your little ones up. Plants need carbon dioxide anyhow rather than oxygen and whatnot. So.. it is also good if you don't have a CO2 generator of some type, then "talking to your plants" will keep them happy since you exhale CO2. Hope this helps. Also... you may want to start with a hydro friendly setup to begin with if you are planning on ending with a hydro setup. Consider hitting your local hydro shop or online and get a small seed tray with dome cover and some rapid rooter plugs that way when your seedlings are big enough to move to your water farm then all you have to do is simply take the plug and bury it down into your hydroton...or you can also use rock wool instead of rapid rooter plugs. I recommend rapid rooter plugs because they have little beneficials in them already which stimulate faster rooting. :D
Also... you will see how damn happy those little babies will be when you keep all that moisture enclosed for them.
Ahh, I understand now. I was supposed to keep the top on AND capped. Im gonna do the "talking" to them as well. I was worried about it not getting any co2 being completely enclosed, but the little one cant use up THAT much co2 to run out between spritzing of the inside of the bottle. I just have to convince my wife to talk to it while Im gone.;)
Im definately going to use rapid rooters next time. I might as well invest in a seedling tray too. If I wasnt under time constraints I would probably go ahead and start another grow with the rapid rooters and seedling tray and see if it would pass this one up in growth. Im sure I could get the rooters into the WF quicker and with much less hassle. Im not looking forward to the transplant. Im thinking about washing the roots and planting in the dark to keep as much light off the roots as possible. Not total darkness but use a led flashlight or something. Im just waiting for a few more leave before i proceed with it.
Any pointers for the root washing and transplant into hydroton?
Are there seedling trays that double as a good cloner?
I really only need 1 good harvest for a years supply, but I am so into this I want to grow grow grow just for the fun of it. Im more hooked on the growing than the green itself. :D But dont get me wrong, Its been over a year since Ive had any so I am more than ready for this grow to produce.:bonghit:
I forgot to ask. Should I increase the light to 2 27w cfls since Im putting the light farther away?
Personally I have gotten away with just using a long bulb 10 watt fluorescent just to get the seedlings going. And I put that mother right above the seedlings with no problems. Soooo.. If you are using a stronger output bulb... you shouldn't have much issue with having the light higher up off your plants. As far as transplanting your plants... I have no idea as I have never had to do that. If you start to see your babies stretch too much.. just move the light closer to them... it will not hurt them with just one bulb. Never had a problem. You can make a bubbler pretty cheap using a 1 to 2 gallon storage bin. You can get netted pots for about 1.50 a piece from hydro store.. cut 2" to 3" holes in snap-on lid (depending on the size of your baskets) put an airstone in the reservoir and use plain tap water to help get them rooting. I put a little bit of hydroton rocks and the rooter plug and then fill the rest of the basket with hydroton and make sure to fill the reservoir up to where it is just touching under the baskets. The airstone will cause the water to "splash" the bottom of the rooters and keep the water well oxygenated as well as encourage strong roots. Also this will keep your rapid rooters moist encouraging seedling to grow. I honestly didn't even use a dome for mine when they were in the bubbler. I will take some pics of my homemade bubbler to show you what I'm talking about. I recommend using a long style airstone for fish aquarium and a 10 gallon capacity air pump which you can get for about 8 to 10 bucks at any pet store.
Okay man... got some pics for ya.. very easy to make.. I used a knife to cut the holes but now I'm hearing that I could have used a round bit for sawing doorknob holes to cut the holes... Oh well. Basically I had cut 6 3" holes for the baskets to sit in the lid. I also drilled a hole for the air hose to fit through the lid. And the pics say it all for the rest.