Exhaling Smoke

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Originally Posted by Barney Trouble

i take a rip, remove my pants, do 3 front flips, and blow it out fast....

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I just hold the hit in as long as I possibly can... to maximize absorption. It gets me higher, quicker, in my experience... so that is what I do. Some people say "your lungs absorb all they're going to absorb in the first few seconds." However, that can't be true because the longer I hold the hit in the less that comes out when I exhale. Therefore, more of it has to be staying in me. Plus I vaporize, so I know that the hit is pretty much pure THC/CBN goodness. Why would I want to exhale any of that, you know? That vapor is pure highness.

If I smoke (as in burning the weed in a bowl or jay), it is for the novelty of it or for the social atmosphere. In that case I don't hold the smoke in long at all. When I smoked cigs back in the day I could hold in smoke hits for as long as I wanted. Now that my lungs are healthy, they definitely don't appreciate it when I pull a punch of poison gas and tar into them and hold it there.

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Originally Posted by jsn9333

I just hold the hit in as long as I possibly can... to maximize absorption. It gets me higher, quicker, in my experience... so that is what I do. Some people say "your lungs absorb all they're going to absorb in the first few seconds." However, that can't be true because the longer I hold the hit in the less that comes out when I exhale. Therefore, more of it has to be staying in me.

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you're just absorbing extra carcinogens dude, all the thc is gone from the smoke in like 5 seconds, after that you're just damaging your lungs. just cause your lungs are absorbing smoke, doesnt mean that theres thc in it.

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Originally Posted by 3rdEyeVision

you're just absorbing extra carcinogens dude, all the thc is gone from the smoke in like 5 seconds, after that you're just damaging your lungs. just cause your lungs are absorbing smoke, doesnt mean that theres thc in it.

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You stopped reading too soon. In the next sentence after your quote of me stops I say, "Plus I vaporize, so I know that the hit is pretty much pure THC/CBN goodness."

I'll sum up my post again. I hold in vapor hits as long as I can, because there is no tar in them. I don't hold in smoke hits at all (even for 5 seconds) because they have tar and carcinogens in them. When I smoke, I blow it out immediately.

I still think it is a myth that all the THC in smoke is absorbed after 5 (or however many) seconds. If you hold in smoke longer, you'll absorb more of the drug that is in the smoke. There is no reason to believe all the THC is absorbed before the smoke. Holding smoke in has benefits and detriments. The benefit is that you absorb more THC. The problem with holding smoke in is that you also absorb more of the tars and poisons. That's why I usually vaporize.

vaporizers still produce carcinogens cause it uses heat to bring the THC out of the weed.the alveolae in your lungs can absorb THC faster than they can absorb the thick smoke thats filled with carcinogens and stuff, thats the reason to believe the THC is absorbed before the smoke.

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Originally Posted by 3rdEyeVision

vaporizers still produce carcinogens cause it uses heat to bring the THC out of the weed.the alveolae in your lungs can absorb THC faster than they can absorb the thick smoke thats filled with carcinogens and stuff, thats the reason to believe the THC is absorbed before the smoke.

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Concerning holding smoke in... I'm not saying you're wrong that the alveolae in your lungs can absorb THC faster than they can absorb the thick smoke thats filled with carcinogens and stuff. But I just don't have any reason to believe that (other then you saying it). Someone else is going to tell me that your lungs absorb it all at the same rate... why should I believe you over him? You know?

Concerning vapor, if one vaporizes lightly (that is, he stops before the weed looks totally brown or even black) I think the amount of carcinogens in the vapor is so small as to be almost negligible when compared to smoking. Maybe I'm wrong, but I suspect that holding a vapor hit in is probably *much* less bad for you then smoking without holding the smoke in. I don't have any way to prove this, but I know that when I vaporize this way I don't cough at all and my lungs feel great.

I only start coughing if I vaporize the bud too much and start really darkening the bud. At that point the taste changes from the "minty fresh" taste and I start to get a slight taste that reminds me of when I used to smoke cigarettes... so that tells me the amount of tar and shit in the vapor is increasing. Even though I could hit the bowl more, I usually dump it and load fresh bud.

After I smoke I *always* cough regardless of how long I hold the hit in.. and may still be coughing hours later. Just listening to my body, I guess, tells me that the vapor is a lot healthier, even if I hold it in.

You are right that carcinogens are produced, though. So maybe I will stop holding the vapor hits in. I just honestly think it may be such a small amount that it doesn't matter... especially since I vaporize "lightly"

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Originally Posted by Barney Trouble

i take a rip, remove my pants, do 3 front flips, and blow it out fast....

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i thought i was the only one who did that!?

Heavy rips, one hitters outta a hash pipe. Hold each in pretty good and let it out. Sometimes it comes blasting out, sometimes it just fogs out.