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Our mind rests, it exists that is, in the nothingness.Quote:
Originally Posted by krazy chino
the brain merely channels the nothingness into ... um... whatever it becomes inside our brains. thoughts, ideas, memories, etc.
The brain is like a radio that is permanently tuned to it's own individual, unique frequency. a frequency that is really just nothingness.
What dreams may come?
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Originally Posted by Stoner Shadow Wolf
How can our brain function though if it is "dead"?
Without the proper life support (i.e. - oxygen & proteins) no muscle in the body can function. Thusly, you can not think, you are dead.
Imagine what it is like to be blind, mute, deaf, paralyzed, and insensitive while having no ability to comprehend or respond to anything. It is exactly what you have all said, death is the state of nothingness
Whether or not you currently have religious beliefs may change this. Physically you are unable to do anything because heaven and hell are not physical places, they are spiritual. Spiritually you can interact in ways that you've never conceived because who knows what one's spirit is capable of doing when it's not weighed down by the boundaries of the body.
If you are religious you realize that if you abide by the laws of your pertaining written scripture than you will be able to enjoy all the benefits however great and wide they are of your own personal corrolating "heaven". However, if you do not abide by what is said you must then you will be experiencing the pain, stress, and suffering inconceivable by the human mind and body for the rest of time...
So, in essence, death is physically nothing, and spiritually more than everything we can physically conceive
yeah i was about to say, how can your brain function without living??? I think you're confusing things... I think you become worm food... circle of life
the brain is merely a radio, a transmitting and receiving device, designed to interpret the MIND. do not confuse mind with matter. they are separate designs. the mind is energy, the brain is matter.
Plus, a nurse friend of mine claims the brain is actually alive for a good period of time after death, something like 5 years i THINK, but i cant remember what she said exactly. could have been 5 days, i cant remember.
but all this aside, the brain does what? it sends electrical impulses about the entire body, brain included, to act, and to think.
the electrical impulses may or may not be generated by the body, but they cannot be destroyed. dispersed into the all of reality, but not utterly extinguished. merely changed.
Is is this energy that is the real us, the real you. the mind is not a brain, but the collection of all thought energy.
but WHERE is it? it cannot be simply stuck in the brain itself! nor can it have always preexisted there! it has to have come from somewhere, before the brain invoked it's presence, where was it?
Tell me, what do you think thoughts are?
On the organic scale, they are the brain, no? how about molecular? perhaps they are the neurons and synapses.
Atomic? the energy itself?
Quantum?
Nothingness, perhaps.
The void of nothingness is the soil where all existence takes root.
I hope it's like sleeping, cause I love to sleep. But, I don't think it's like that really. I'm ready as I'll ever be.
if the mind is energy and the brain is matter in which the brain is the muscle that transfers the electrical impulses that ARE thoughts then that must mean that if the "brain" dies, then the "mind" must die doesn't it?...Quote:
Originally Posted by Stoner Shadow Wolf
Saying that the mind is still active after the brain is dead is saying that the water in a resovoir can still pump itself when the pump is dead...it doesn't make sense...
yes, the electrical charges may take a while to exit the body, but it doesn't mean they can be transferred and formulated into thoughts.
Does that make sense? This is all so complicated...
I'm not angry at all by the way, merely just trying to have a comprehensive conversation, no hard feelings whatsoever
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Originally Posted by SunnyD
actually no, saying the mind is alive after the brain is dead is more like saying the water still exists, even after the reservoir is dry.
it just doesnt exist in the reservoir anymore.
I cannot say exactly where it goes, if anywhere, but i do believe that nothingness is the key.
Thoughts and ideas precede the brain. the brain just exists to draw them into a physical representation through our actions and our words.
I've heard of the brain still being alive around 5 minutes after death, before the cells start to really die.
In that moment of relative time before the brain dies, like Coelho mentioned, the possibility that our spiritual or dream-like state of mind during that time could seem to last forever and actually be the afterlife. That's a pretty cool common theory, but it makes me wonder about the people who die that have their heads smashed to bits and don't get to experience the slow process of what happens chemically and physically in the brain.
have you ever read about brain plasticity?
I like to contemplate but contemplation gives no answers only experience does.
Like with all inevitable experiences I will deal with it when it happens.