Guantanamo detainee Moazzam Begg tells C4 news what he saw

plus, can you really trust what someone says when they've been tortured.

i'd say i was al qaeda and i was planning some attack just to stop being tortured, which from reports, is more than piling them on top of each other. it's a lot worse, and goes beyond gitmo and abu ghraib.

there are more prisons in iraq like that one. this issue was brought out, barely covered, and now it's old news, it was meant to be brought up as no big deal, nothing really big, move along now...even as more and more and more news of it comes out daily...but let's not bother talking about it anymore, it's old news.

and when you watch NYPD blue, or CSI, or 24 or threat matrix, they're always torturing someone to get answers, and guns are illegal and bad, and give up your rights, and no constitution, and magical science...it's brainwashing people. i can't even watch 1 minute of any of those shows. it's total martial law propaganda.

or someone's getting a chip in their hand so they can leave their wallet at home and get access to VIP rooms, and homeschoolers are bad...those shows receive federal funding, they get story ideas from the feds, and it's 100% propaganda.

sorry for the rant, i'm just really high.

not a big deal??during the election that was all people talked about for about a month?everywhere you looked that's all you saw.i don't what planet you live but i think you missed the boat brother?

can you please tell me what town we destroyed?if you say fallujah your nuts.can you name a single one?and seriously ,if you truly think we are doing what the nazi's did you need to read a history book.im sorry for sounding angered but that is the most ignorant thing i have ever heard.better yet,have you ever spoken to a holocaust survivor?i would guess not.spoiled.untraveled.uninformed.

i have read tons of books on the actions of the nazis in wars and at home, and the destruction of the weimar republic and the propaganda used to get people to accept absolute despotism while giving up their rights...it's not pretty.

i've seen interviews with survivors who weren't even aware there were camps at the time or had only heard rumors, when they were just conspiracy theories. i've seen the nazi propaganda films to get people to accept hating and killing disabled people, and jews, and to accept "relocation" as helpful and loving.

smedley buter, someone you've probably never heard of, blew the whistle on a group in the US in the 30's that was planning on bringing that same system here. operation paperclip, the eugenics programs in the US, prescott bush and others funding nazis and funneling nazi money through their banks and corporations. assets were seized even after WWII...heard of the mccormack dickstein committee?

i go beyond the history taught in schools and even college...even though i know history majors that know all this, to older encyclopedias and library of congress and a whole lot more.

http://www.nhgazette.com/cgi-bin/NHG...NN_Bush_Nazi_2

did you read the 47 page army memo on torture?

i wouldn't even call how the mainstream covered the torture a real attempt at informing us of what happened. it was more of a whitewash.

you are going to base something on a conspiracy theory?you know as well as i do that if any of the eugenics programs were factual and proven so w wouldn't be president correct,wich bring's us back to the fact that is was NOTHING more than a conspiracy THEORY.I DID READ THE ARMY memo and didn't see anything disturbing about it at all?the kid that shot the iraqi in the mosque just had his chrges dropped with the help of the league of nations(united nations)investigations.and about the propaganda,i think you are making a mighty giant leap if you are trying to connect that to the united states.i find it odd that while blogging with people who ,ya know, LIVE IN BAGHDAD and around iraq,they aren't near as upset as the critic's in america.to me it's wierd talking to people in iraq who speak of nothing but hope and gratitude,and then a few people here who speak of nothing but conspiracies,contempt,and fright.i tell the iraqi's all these thing's and they chuckle,really.again with the nazi stuff,too funny.honestly ,it's idea's like that gave president bush and republicans such a huge victory across america on november 2.i guess i should say,thank you.

wow, so smedley butler's a conspiracy theory? he didn't really exist? the mccormack dickstein committee was just a theory too, it might not have happened...

it was in newspapers man, in the 40's...real newspapers, do a google search, you'll find it. bush's companies were seized under the trading with the enemy act, and more were seized after WWII when he continued his nazi dealings...it's not a big surprise our government was working with the nazis, in many ways...well, to those who know nothing about it and pass it off a 'theory'...i guess it is.

but that makes it easier for you, you can never look into it.

i'd hardly call bush, the UNESCO loving, open border and amnesty loving, giant government and biggest federal budget in our history...a republican. he's certainly nothing like republicans of 50+ years ago...he's more like a 'democrat'... but then again, you're stuck in this false left/right paradigm that you'll never get out of.

i'd hardly call bush, the UNESCO loving



Unesco? What the fuck could you have against world heritige sites?

i suggest you look up unesco, because that's now all it is.

it's something clinton wouldn't dare sign us back onto...but bush can do it with full 'republican' support...it takes education even further away from where it should be, from locally controlled...to federally controlled, to world control.

the feds aren't doing enough to make us stupid as it is apparently.

it gives the education of kids away to the global government, so they can learn how good it is to live in a third world socialist/dictatorship state being watched by cameras and UN troops 'peacekeeping' with taxation over 80%, while the elite wall themselves off with armies and live in luxury.

but i do have something against the so called 'world heritage sites'...we'll save that for another day.

even the UN charter says you don't have any rights, and the loving UN can take them away if they feel like it, or they don't like what you say about them. i could go into this for hours, so i'll spare you.

it gives the education of kids away to the global government, so they can learn how good it is to live in a third world socialist/dictatorship state being watched by cameras and UN troops 'peacekeeping' with taxation over 80%, while the elite wall themselves off with armies and live in luxury.



UN peacekeepers do a good job. Socialism is good. You have a nice chunk of the 3rd world in every ghetto. I think you are nutbar

a nutbar i meant