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Our troops who are fighting YOUR WAR IN AFGHANISTAN are doing one hell of a job and the last time i checked the world trade towers were in new york not ottawa canada.Maybe if your president wasnt such an idiot the taliban would be taken care of by now.But noo you guys choose to fight in Iraq while the job in Afghanistan wasnt done yet.OHH hows that hunt for osama bin laden going lol your president is a joke......
Too bad Canada doesn't have the willpower, or the clout, to actually finish any job in Afghanistan. Otherwise, you'd have made a valid point. You've got 2,500 troops digging through minefields in Afghanistan, being used as target practice for bored Taliban fighters. Southern Afghanistan now has a HIGHER occurrence of drug manufacture, and the soldiers still aren't properly trained. Yeah, you're doing one heck of a job, Mountie.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishman3811
So what are ya saying? Unless we're their holding your hands you can't win a damn war? Yipper, sure is nice to depend so heavily on your friends but bitch when ya have to return the favor.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishman3811
Have a good one!:s4:
Fishman- "Maybe if your president wasnt such an idiot the taliban would be taken care of by now."
First off the president is pretty dumb I'll have to admit but not because the Taliban haven't been disbanded. Its quite obvious you're basing their military tactics on previous wars. This is a new era of warfare buddy and just like WWI and II it took mistakes to figure out how to adjust to new military techniques. This war is Assymetrical and its not as if they're standing around in uniform. Its a highly organized underground militia who will literally kill themselves for their beliefs. If you think Bush is stupid based off of the fact that we didn't find Osoma yet, then please enlighten me on how exactly we would go about finding the bastard. Perhaps then I along with everyone else on this forum will give you more respect.
You're kidding, right? Troops didn't have the nads for the action...I'd say it was more like WE HAVE NO BUSINESS THERE...and say what you want about our government but at least they can recognize they really have no business being there. Nor do you guys, but...you've made your bed. Too bad it's full of shit and sinking.Quote:
Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud
And to Mr.Clandestine...
You should be kissing our ass for pulling any weight for you in Afghanistan...another place we shouldn't be. You guys got attacked, not us...and right away we came to help you because we're allies. your government somehow thought it necessary to send all your troops to some different arab country while the real crap in Afghanistan had to be taken over by your allies....and therefore, before you go saying we don't have the clout or will to finish the job in Afghanistan, you should think about the fact that we sent guys there to help your retarded war on terror...and you owe us for it. And as for us not being able to finish the job....it isn't our job to do. Remember that. We did it cause we're nice. Don't you think we don't know our military isn't capable?? We know that. And thats why it pisses us off that we're doing your dirty work. Remember, we don't need to, so regardless of your thoughts on the strength of our forces, at least have enough courtesy to give thanks that we even moved a muscle to help you. If your military is so damn strong why has it been clusterfucking itself AND Iraq for the past 5 years. Don't see you guys pulling out a big easy victory there..and you won't...and no matter how long you stay you're prolonging your inevitable embarrassment from the loss you will definitely leave with.
I have to wonder how long it will take for you people to realize what you've done. That excuse of...we have to stay cause it would be reckless to pull out now....hmm...is this 1970??? Sounding a little like nam to me. You did the bombs. Nothing. Then you sent in all your troops to fight on the ground, and operated under your search and destroy policy, and STILL YOU LOST!!!!!!! Have you people forgotten that??? Iraq is not a 'total war'...but for the Iraqi's it is. They are more dedicated to winning at any cost than you guys are...don't see Rosie the riveter anywhere, or the war effort at home prospering. Lets face it, this is not a world war being fought for a good cause, it is an imperial struggle against some people you have no idea about. Again, like Vietnam. They are fighting for your troops to leave, and they will continue until you do!! That's what is making you lose. You aren't half as in it as the Iraqi insurgents. It's the same damn situation as Vietnam...they fought for so long because they wanted the foreigners out of there...not because they were resisting communism. How many countries do you need to ruin before you revert back to the Monroe doctrine and keep your noses out of everyone's business. Cause at that time, you guys were stellar. Your country was fuckin awesome, until about 1963 when Kennedy died and everything went to shit. This is what bugs me...Americans hate Canadians and think we're attacking you guys and insulting your country all the time. I personally love your country, your declaration of independence and constitution are great documents...what I hate is that you seem to have abandoned your founding principles.
The monroe doctrine was a great policy, and then somehow you changed the isolationist nature, and became 'world police'. That is what I hate. Not your country or your people, just your feeling that you have the right to settle disputes around the world, and in other people's countries. If you guys stopped doing that, America could be on its way back to the greatest nation ever.
Gotta love it when our "allies" feel they are so much more righteous concerning this war:Quote:
Originally Posted by FreshNugz
One of those who made out like a bandit is a rich Canadian whose bank made millions and whose Paris-based holding companies include the originally French-Belgian oil company TotalFina Elf, which cut lucrative deals with Saddam's Iraq and is currently operating in war-torn Sudan.
Various congressional committees have launched hearings into what has been described as the biggest corruption scandal in history. Not surprisingly, U.N. officials have refused to cooperate with the congressional investigations.
The Oil-for-Food Scandal â?? the Canadian Connection
So what is the real reason why you guys weren't involved again? As for the "sinking"....only in the minds of the left.
Glad you stated "any" weight because we are handling the brunt of the load there also:Quote:
Originally Posted by FreshNugz
Troop levels in Afghanistan | ScrippsNews
Canada was involved in the Food For Oil scam not to mention they also tried to bypass the Central Government of Iraq to score up oil deals with the Kurds. If any country should be accused of having "oil interests" in Iraq.....well, I'm not one to point fingers.:D
Have a good one!:s4:
you're grasping at straws man.
I didn't say anywhere that we're oil interested, or talk about anything having to do with oil in relation to the war. I said it was ridiculous to be so rude to allies who are helping you when we don't really need to. We didn't get attacked. It's not our issue.
And so one canadian guy made money from some oil deal there...has nothing to do with my argument.
Mine was that the Canadian Forces should be respected for the job they are doing in Afghanistan...and some people clearly fail to recognize this. But, maybe ignorance is bliss for you? That way you can pollute your mind entertaining the thought that America is doing the most work in Afghanistan. That's a fucking joke of a statement.
First of all, Canada has 2500 Troops there, not 2300. If they made the error, they could certainly err in others.
Canadian pullout from Afghanistan won�t harm NATO: official
Secondly, its important to note where these troops are. Your guys are all up North where nothing happens!!!!! Just some farms, goats, and reconstruction/civilian aid going on up there. Canadian troops are in Kandahar, the Panjwaii District. These are very dangerous areas of heavy combat, and they certainly aren't American troops. They are Canadian and British. Just now has France decided to send 1000 troops to take the place of Americans in the North so they can come to help us in the dangerous areas. Thats only happening now. So until this point, it has been mostly canada doing the important work. Sorry if you don't see that. But I do and take great offense when you patronize the work that those men and women are doing there. I'm not being righteous, I'm stating the truth that you are ignoring, and by ignoring that truth you are the one being righteous. But then again, you Americans alllllllllways gotta be the best eh.
We have at least 5 times as many troops on the ground and 7 times the casualties. Sure we appreciate the "help" but don't put it across like we left ya holding the bag. Hell, the reason that U.S. troops have to go to the south is because the NATO troops "were ill-trained for counterinsurgency operations."Quote:
Originally Posted by FreshNugz
Afghanistan Update
Like is, has, and will probably always be, stated.....when the shit hits the roof it's the U.S. that has to clean up the mess.
As for the "allie" thing....seems to me that there are a hell of alot more Canadians in here pissing on our flag than people from the U.S. pissing on yours.
Have a good one!:s4:
Just a small note: War is fucked. War mongers are fucked. Peace is attainable. Those that propose war should fight them and leave the rest of us in peace.
Well the reason you clean the mess all the time is because you guys generally made it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud
And those canadians pissing on your flag are just afraid...they are afraid that your government's disgraceful actions will start to pollute ours...they are afraid of your influence, your power, etc. But most of all...they can't believe that people don't see it. Most of them don't understand or aren't willing to put up with the continuation of the current path of the US.
That's why they piss on your flag. And you guys have been pissing on ours for years, how come we can't spring a little stream over once in a while.