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Thanks Mrs. Hound, that's probably exactly what I'll end up doing. I know it can also be chemically induced, but I figured there'd be less risk by messing with the photoperiod. I haven't even picked the female yet, but I'm already feeling sorry for her! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Weedhound
This too shall pass, as doubt and panic set in, lol. (kidding)Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Clandestine
I place the stressed plant in the back-corner of my growroom, to avoid the wind. As the actual pollen sacks mature, (last few days) I have a couple of 2' x 4' pieces of plexiglass I set around the plant. (open top)
Still gives the stressed plant light, but blocks the wind enough to not worry too much about polination of the entire crop. Has worked great for the past couple of years, and also works for collecting pollen from males, too.
Rusty-
I like the plexiglass idea, and that's something that I actually have laying around my basement. I was actually planning on building a similar enclosure when I just had one growroom to allow males to release their pollen without violating the entire crop. Then I realized that a few CFLs and a separate room were all I really needed to harvest pollen from the fellas.
Do you normally pull the stressed female aside after the lights go out, then give her weird conditions until the lights are back on? Like I said, I've never purposefully stressed a plant before, and am not entirely sure what would be the best way to go about it. Also, do you let the herm pollinate herself for the seeds... or do you collect the pollen and use it on another female of the same strain? Pardon my inquisition, this is totally foreign to me.
I've never tried to make a hermie but from everything I've read it's pretty simple.
Smack her around, throw in weird lighting schedule (go from 24/0 to 12/12 back to 24/0 a few times), basically just not caring for your plant, but still caring enough to keep it alive.
I'm no expert either but that's what I've gathered.
Have been using uncoated generic aspirin to induce, for the past few years. (acetylsalicylic acid - one per half gallon, each watering for 3 or 4 waterings) But it takes so long for results, and you can't control how many male flowers you'll get. Most of the time they are in the bud, and unaccessible.:mad: Also, don't re-use the soil without thorough flush, by the way. (spoken from experience, lol)Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Clandestine
I am thinking of trying the light stress method tho.
The plan is: Go into my flower room, wait till just before lights out, then take her to a room that will be dark all night.
Once there, I'll cover the plant entirely with 2 of those green or black heavy duty lawn bags. (clear ones won't work) Bamboo stakes to keep plastic off of plant.
I'll cut a small hole thru both layers, and pull a lower branch thru, marking it with a twist-tie. Turn off lights, close door. Could even place a tiny fan for circulation, but likely not necessary.
Just before bedtime, I'll sneak in, (so she doesn't hear me) and zap her for a few minutes with the flashlight, while avoiding as much as possible letting any of the light penetrate the plastic or reflect up from a shiny desktop... (don't want to point the flashlight directly at the rest of the plant)
The next morning I'll uncover her and return her to the flower room . Repeat for a couple of days making sure to zap the same branch (marked with a twist-tie) every time. After pollen is harvested from the branch, should be ok to lop the whole thing off.
Worst case...plastic doesn't protect rest of plant as good as I thought it would, and I get shitloads of pollen for future grows.
Best case...works great, and nanners confined to one (expendable) branch.
Have never tried this method, so anyone with more insight please chime in. :thumbsup:
sounds like it will work....im sure my JH was a fem, she harvested about 70 grams, and only had VERY few male flowers...maybe these males were bagseed...or parent seeds...dunno really...lol, but the rest of the girls in my room, other than the 2 parent plants, are the cross...all ladies
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whiskeytango
Thanks Rusty! I tried giving ya a rep for your help, but I still have to spread the love around. So here's a succession of cordial smilies instead:
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Your method sounds pretty tricky, but if it works, it definitely sounds worth it. I always kinda assumed that if any part of the plant was to hermie, it would be a random effect on areas all over the whole plant. I don't know if I'll go that in-depth with it for my first attempt, I'll probably go for some kind of nanner record. Having an crap load of female pollen sounds alright to me!
If it works, be sure to fill us in.
im not 100% on this but wouldnt trying to hermie one branch just fuck up the whole thing! idk mite as well hermie a whole plant ya kno. not worth busting your balls/worrying "did i hermie that whole shit or what!" :rastasmoke:
this should be stickied maby in basic growing all about hermies ya kno *cough cough mods cough cough* :rastasmoke:
I'd always wonder if it would work. Will give it a go soon. :thumbsup: Not worried if the light affects the whole plant, because I'd use the pollen anyway. Would be nice if it works, tho. I don't know if the changes would be localized, or be mobile enough to affect whole thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hennessy1414
Not sure if stickied in the beginners forum would be appropriate for this topic. Best to have a good handle on the basics before jumping into the deep end, lol.
I have to chuckle when I think of the Reverse and the fact that I have to close my curtains by hand.....every night.......etc etc etc to prevent hermies. If there is one conclusion I've come to is that if anything will consistently f#*k up your plants and create hermies it's screwing up the lighting. (PS I spend MUCHO TIME trying to prevent this very thing....:D) I have very little doubt that few light shocks here and there (at least three) would hermie most plants. Just my :twocents: