Clones Drying and Dying upon Transplant..... Your thought requested.

What kind of troubles have you had with the bubble cloners Stinkster?

I'm using clonex gel,hydrofarm heat matts,humity domes,2' trays.....Running in a basement so gotta use all the time floor is concrete....

Need to make a table for my clones but the heat matts seem to help out the speed for me, with seedz,cuttings,in jiffy pellets, or oasis cubes.

I keep the floros about a quarter inch front the top of the humity dome.Seems to work, only draw back is it seems they get maybe to used to it cause i lost power one day and had massive catrostrophic clone loss....

Out of the dome and into the soil is what i do its rough on them but know right away wich ones are gonna live or die. I then leave them under those same foloros for a few days....Then straight under hid MH wich they love! Stretching is sometimes an issue but I mastering the light to canopy distance thing quickly.

I am 24/0 fan. The sun never goes down on planet Zissous veg room. Makes me wonder when then move to 12/12 if my girls have a case of achluophobia? nyuk,nyuk,nyuk.....

Anyways recently i bought a product i had never heard of, or knew of it being a possibility. Nutes/ferts for clones? WTF over MasterChief? Anwayz clonex does. Just started using it so cant report on it helping or not but at 20$ for a liter of the stuff figured it might be worth a try and see....Has anyone used this stuff in the past?

it claims:
Clonex Clone Solution is a clone-specific nutrient formulated using a special blend of minerals and other helpful ingredients. Used with Clonex gel and other rooting agents, Clonex Clone Solution assists in the cloning process while helping to minimize stress.

Clonex Rooting Gel Compound has been the foremost product in its field since its launch in 1989. It is known and respected the world over and has been used to empower at least 750,000,000 clones during that period of time.

Clonex Rooting Gel Compound has succeeded because the formulation was fine tuned over hundreds of experiments to give the explosive root development that serious growers now depend upon.

Now another ten years of experience has underwritten our new product. Clonex Clone Solution is the product of extensive new research and is designed to work in conjunction with Clonex Rooting Gel Compound and other rooting agents for outstanding results.

Clonex Clone Solution can be applied to the rooting medium and sprayed over the young clones.

front of bottle has a npk of 1-0.4-1 ......

Wow Great advice from you both.

Curios in regards to hood venting. Do you being to vent the hood "a crack" right from the begining after cloning, or do you let it sit a few days/week before begining to vent.

When you say spray dome not clones is that from the very begining, therefore I should never spray the clones or only periodically as needed.

When should I begin to pull the hood off to vent for an hour, put it back etc. When I am just begining to see rooting sites, when I have established roots coming out of the bottom or prehaps no roots at all.

What is the best tempreture humidity for cloning, I've heard the gammit but most people say to keep your medium at 70-75 with your air temp at 70.

As always any additional thoughts you may have on this issue no matter how abtuse are of course welcomed and encouraged.

Dome vents....... the more u crack the more air u'll get but also have to spray more often.....IMO that is. Also cleaning them often is very important......when the water stops beeding alot on the tops its time to clean it.

In regards to your earlier post.

I heard that adding a small bit of SM-90 to your resivioir can halt the creation of any mold on plant roots. I've been using it for sometime in my resivior and have not had any any mold issues. Can you comment as to SM-90 in both foliar and resivior forms?

bubble troubles:
-my house is poorly heated/cooled and even temperature is necessary for bubble cloners
-my tap water is a perfect 7 and I wasn't adjusting it
-I had mold issues
-My Clonex went bad and I didn't know it. I would EXPECT something that expensive to contain a freakin FUNGICIDE... :wtf:
Let the clones sit until they are rooted, 8-14 days, before opening the dome vent even a little. Rooting is step one. Hardening-off can't start until you have roots.
Don't even try to acclimate the clones until you are certain that they have roots.
Proper temp is more like 75-80.

how does clonex go bad? u mean like contamination?

Yes, contamination is very easy. You should always pour what you need out of the jar and then wipe down the inside of the cap and threading with a clean paper towel before closing again, and store in the fridge for maximum life. But even so, you mayu notice suddenly all your clones start failing. It really should come with a 'use within 4 months of opening' warning on the label!
I switched to dip-n-gro. My friend gave me the dregs of a little bottle of the stuff he's had for oh hell, easy 6 years... it brought my success ratio up over 95% the FIRST TRY and now I get 100%. It has a fungicide and is more stable chemically it seems.

So it's pretty typical that root establishment is a must before even opening the vents on the dome and then from there continue to aclclimatize them slowly without spraying plant foliage directly, only the inside of the hood.

I've heard before that a good rule of thumb for thinking about opening vents is five roots emerging from your rockwool. Do you belive that this saying has weight, if not when would you consider true root prodution? At the begining of seeing rooting sights along the clone, or roots emerging from the rooting medium.

Again great posts to this thread so far, I'm sure that with this info I wont have any more spoiled experiences.