Why I have a real problem trusting the US goverment.
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Originally Posted by psychocat
I am astounded that the US military would allow this sort of thing to happen to thier allies given that (to my knowledge) they made sure the blood given to US troops WAS checked.
I didn't read that US servicemen received pre-screened blood. If that has been the case, it's unthinkable. But do we know for sure that only soldiers and citizens from the UK received unchecked blood? Are UK and US hospital tents and temporary stations cordoned off according to where the soldier is from? I honestly have no clue.
Given the size of the population here, you're right - there should be a better system in place to gather contaminate-free blood in the event of a serious emergency and ensuing shortage. As much as I hate to admit it, I'm pretty stingy with my blood. I practically live off of coffee and caffeinated beverages, and without much water, your blood thickens. It takes forever to pump out a pint, and honestly, I can think of a few other things I'd rather do with my time. Luckily, some people love it and do it frequently. I'll just have to try and "make a difference" another way, I suppose...
Why I have a real problem trusting the US goverment.
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You are dead right in your observation that Brit troops (or any troops for that matter) go where they are told to go and do not have a choice. Saying to your commanding officer "Sorry sir but I realy don't want to go to Afghanistan" doesn't realy work. Once you sign up you go where you are told no questions asked and you can't think like a civvy who can just walk out of a job they don't like. Try walking out of the British army and they send big hairy arsed MP's (with weapons) after you and then you get courtmatialed for desertion.
here in the states you can. they call these people concientious objecters. i call them pussies. when i was in we actually had some girl from my post say that she shouldnt have to go because her recruiter didnt tell her she may have to go to war. umm your in the army what do a think they do. but if you say its against your beleifs well you dont go.
Why I have a real problem trusting the US goverment.
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Originally Posted by 40oz
yea because it was the soldiers' choice, right?
serves them good and proper :rambohead:
40Oz im sorry if my response sounded rude... i understand that after someone is a soldier he has not choice anymore about to go or not to go to any war he were ordered to.
BUT i believe that anyone who wishes to be a soldier is aware that soldiers were meant to go to war (i dont think british soldiers are fooled into entering army by merciless recruters as happens in u.s.).
And thats why i think if anybody chooses such way of living, they must assume responsability for everything that can happen because of theirs choice. War is about killing people. If one kills, eventually one may be killed also.
Why I have a real problem trusting the US goverment.
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Originally Posted by Coelho
And thats why i think if anybody chooses such way of living, they must assume responsability for everything that can happen because of theirs choice. War is about killing people. If one kills, eventually one may be killed also.
The point is they are not at risk of being killed in action as they have been removed from the theater of operations because they have been wounded. They are in danger of being killed by the medics who administer supposedly life saving blood transfusions using possibly contaminated blood because the blood has not been screened.
As ex military it is bad enough being in a war without having to worry that the very people responsible for your well being after you have done your duty have so little regard as to allow unscreened blood to be used.
Why I have a real problem trusting the US goverment.
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Originally Posted by psychocat
The point is they are not at risk of being killed in action as they have been removed from the theater of operations because they have been wounded. They are in danger of being killed by the medics who administer supposedly life saving blood transfusions using possibly contaminated blood because the blood has not been screened.
As ex military it is bad enough being in a war without having to worry that the very people responsible for your well being after you have done your duty have so little regard as to allow unscreened blood to be used.
I understand you... and for me it seems the greatest irony of it all... they escaped death during the combats... and yet werent left unscathed by it. Death has many ways to find us... and not only when we are expecting it...
Why I have a real problem trusting the US goverment.
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The 18 military and six civilians were informed last month, although one of the soldiers was only traced this week after he had returned from a holiday in France. A defence official said ministers had decided against sending the French gendarmerie to his holiday location to tell him the bad news, believing it would be unfair to ruin his holiday.
How considerate for the lovers he may or may not have been romancing. Yikes.
Why I have a real problem trusting the US goverment.
Speaking of not trusting the US government, here's something I thought fit the subject
Why I have a real problem trusting the US goverment.
Give em hell Psycho!
Geez if they'll do this to our allies it really makes you wonder what they are doing to us...
Why I have a real problem trusting the US goverment.
watch the movie "loose change".
That's what they're doing to you.
Why I have a real problem trusting the US goverment.
Being a soldier is NOT all about killing. It is about protecting YOUR sovereignty. They do what the government tells them. The same government that YOU voted in to place. They join with the understanding that IF they are injured they will be given the best of care!
This was not the best of care.
