Does Rudy stand a chance???

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Originally Posted by midlifecrisis

I think his strategy may backfire, Romney has nearly a 2 to 1 lead in delegates yet the media is calling McCain the front runner. I do not understand this as even if Rudy wins Florida he will still be in second with the delegate count.

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And by the way Romney is the only viable candidate that is neutral on medical marijuana.

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So if Rudy wins Florida and is in 2nd, how does he not have a chance? Let me see, Florida, Cali, NY, NJ, those off the top of my head will likely go to Rudy, how many delegates does that give him with just those 3? Who knows now, Cali is not an all or nothing state anymore. It will be intresting none the less.

This is not correct? Although I will admit that I believe that not a single candidate for either side genuinely supports mmj or moving to decriminalization, not even Ron Paul. If you believe otherwise that's fine, don't throw a fit because I think you are wrong, but you are. "True Believers" :stoned:

I have lived in NYC during the mayoralty of seven men, including the current office holder, Michael R. Bloomberg. Giuliani was better than the majority of them. I don't know if he'd make a good president, but the citizens of New York City were apparently pleased enough to reelect him, a Republican in a traditionally Democratic city. During his two terms, he took a city that was wrecked by decades of crime and neglect and helped restore it to a level that the residents can honestly say was, and still is, better than before he took office. Most people outside of NYC do not know this, understandably, and won't vote for him.

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Originally Posted by Breukelen advocaat

I have lived in NYC during the mayoralty of seven men, including the current office holder, Michael R. Bloomberg. Giuliani was better than the majority of them. I don't know if he'd make a good president, but the citizens of New York City were apparently pleased enough to reelect him, a Republican in a traditionally Democratic city. During his two terms, he took a city that was wrecked by decades of crime and neglect and helped restore it to a level that the residents can honestly say was, and still is, better than before he took office. Most people outside of NYC do not know this, understandably, and won't vote for him.

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Living in the vicinity, can you tell me generally the attitude of law enforcement when Rudy was in office twords marijuana use and such? Just curious.

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Originally Posted by 8182KSKUSH

Living in the vicinity, can you tell me generally the attitude of law enforcement when Rudy was in office twords marijuana use and such? Just curious.

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The police went after street dealers, and gangs, most of whom were disreputable people, and some were violent. If you were discreet, and did your pot business and smoking indoors, you'd never get hassled by the cops or busted. People that were selling pot 24/7 in apartment buildings, out of holes in the door for instance, were closed down when complaints were received - and I can't say I blame the neighbors and authorities for it
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Basically, if you're not a nuisance, and don't act stupid, you're pretty safe using, purchasing, and even dealing, pot in NYC.

That's actually pretty damn good.:thumbsup:
Has that kind of environment always been, how did Rudy have any impact on that policy if he had any, from what you know?:thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by 8182KSKUSH

That's actually pretty damn good.:thumbsup:
Has that kind of environment always been, how did Rudy have any impact on that policy if he had any, from what you know?:thumbsup:

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Well, he instituted a number of "quality of life" measures that many liberals were highly critical of - such as stopping the "squeegie" guys who were basically bums that sprayed car windows with liquid and wiped them, whether you wanted it or not. During the previous administraton of David Dinkins, this sort of thing was rampant. He also went after panhandlers, who were very persistant and annoying.


The street-dealing of weed in Greenwich Village was way out of hand, as was the crime, before Rudy became mayor. Most of the pot sold there in the streets was either totally beat, or the "sale" would involve people getting robbed of ALL their money, credit cards, etc., without the option of going to the police because of their bad judgment and the illegal transaction they were attempting to complete. I've also known more dealers that were ripped off, or worse, often in their own homes, than ones who got busted by the police. I only met a few people in NYC that got busted big time, but that was for harder stuff, and their cases involved the feds.

If I go to cop a small amount of weed, always under the legal limit of 25 grams (or usually a 1/4 oz), I can often do the transaction right in the street during a weekday in NYC without worry - because my connection (who has a "regular" job) and I don't arouse suspicion and I have the street instincts and experience to avoid heat. Sometimes we'll just sit on the steps of a big library or museum and make the trade, with many people passing by - including cops. You just have to be comfortable enough with that sort of thing. Of course, you don't light up a joint there, lol, but you could probably get away with a few tokes on a quiet side street with minimal risk. People do that more in the boroughs, but street smoking is not rampant, at least not in my area.

That sounds pretty 420 friendly to me!:thumbsup:
Sounds like a pretty low priority for the law enforcement, sounds like gasp..........common sense.:thumbsup:

Of course Rudy has a chance, his plan was never to win the early states, he never would be able to anyway, not with those videos of him in drag all over youtube lol.

However, I don't think even he expected to have Ron Paul kick his ass in those early states, let alone see him come in 2nd in Nevada (even though he wasn't even close to 1st place, he still did pretty damn well for a candidate fox news doesn't think is worth reporting on!)

I think Giuliani's plan might backfire, especially now that McCain is gaining momentum, if Giuliani looses to McCain, I think that'll be big news for both candidates! Of course, I myself would never vote for either candidate no matter what happens, nothing is going to stop me from voting for Paul on the 5th :)

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Originally Posted by Nailhead

Of course Rudy has a chance, his plan was never to win the early states, he never would be able to anyway, not with those videos of him in drag all over youtube lol.

However, I don't think even he expected to have Ron Paul kick his ass in those early states, let alone see him come in 2nd in Nevada (even though he wasn't even close to 1st place, he still did pretty damn well for a candidate fox news doesn't think is worth reporting on!)

I think Giuliani's plan might backfire, especially now that McCain is gaining momentum, if Giuliani looses to McCain, I think that'll be big news for both candidates! Of course, I myself would never vote for either candidate no matter what happens, nothing is going to stop me from voting for Paul on the 5th :)

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You hit the nail on the head I think. I am sure that he is just as surprised by Ron Pauls success as anyone. I am disappointed with the coverage of the campaigns by the media period, not just Fox. I think that Fox is slighting him, but that is there business. I bet that Rudy was counting on someone being somewhat of a front runner, but not Mccain. Mccain is going to give Rudy a run for his money, and I think that Romney will suck away more support from him. It's either going to be the most brilliant move of all time or the biggest mis-step ever.
In a way he has positioned himself as the under dog, could be genius! We'll see.

I think ghouliani has put too much time and cash into Florida that if he doesn't get first he will be out. Florida gives all the delegates to the winner and second place is a costly loss.

This from the New York Times today :thumbsup:


Crossing Mayor Giuliani often had a price
While in office, Republican's toughness edged toward ruthlessness

In August 1997, James Schillaci, a rough-hewn chauffeur from the Bronx, dialed Mayor Giulianiâ??s radio program on WABC-AM to complain about a red-light sting run by the police near the Bronx Zoo. When the call yielded no results, Mr. Schillaci turned to The Daily News, which then ran a photo of the red light and this front page headline: â??GOTCHA!â?�

That morning, police officers appeared on Mr. Schillaciâ??s doorstep. What are you going to do, Mr. Schillaci asked, arrest me? He was joking, but the officers were not.

They slapped on handcuffs and took him to court on a 13-year-old traffic warrant. A judge threw out the charge. A police spokeswoman later read Mr. Schillaciâ??s decades-old criminal rap sheet to a reporter for The Daily News, a move of questionable legality because the state restricts how such information is released. She said, falsely, that he had been convicted of sodomy.

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