Foliar Feeding & Liquid Light, Miracle Food or Hoax?

Morning OP-

The plant gets extra food over the nutrient EC maximum. I figure that's gotta be a good thing. I'm forcing food down the stomata. Is this naive?

Just watch yourself- it's really easy to OD and fry yer shit ( talking crispy fried), esp w/ N. The plant gets extra nutes, which it may or may not be able to handle.

Are you saying that you can actually increase the thickness of the foliage, or is it like the cellular structure, or well what do you mean build tissue levels? Is this done with silicone? Lord I probably sound like an idiot.


Not at all- we're getting into weird science here. Referring to relative concentration of elements in tissue, tho foliar application of silica is associated with a thicker cell membrane. Silica, not silicone...;)

What do you recommend I foliar spray to improve the iron content.

Any good micro supplement will do the trick- see if yer local carries a product called " Spray & Grow". I like the citrate, rather than the EDTA, but that's a mighty fine point. Lotta liquified seaweeds are iron fortified these days, as well.

If I understand correctly, youâ??re saying foliar feeding doesnâ??t work well for the macros like N,P,K but it does for the micro nutrients?

Really more a matter of it maybe working too well- beware the fry factor.

One last thing I've been wondering but keep forget to ask. Can you basically foliar feed with anything you feed the roots with? With the exception of the macro nutrients not being absorbed as well, would the micros be about the same thing? Bleahg - I can talk, what I mean is, can I mix up my grow nutes and foliar feed with them during the veg cycle, and can I use my bud nutes to foliar feed during the budding cycle? Etc.?


Well, full strength nute will almost certainly fry leaf tissue- I'd cut it down to like 10% dose. Try to avoid getting flowers wet too often, as it can lead to fungal issues. Do yerself a favor and don't spray mollasses, or LK, or anything w/ a high sucrose level, as it will leave sticky surface sugars which will attact bugs and bacteria.

Again, I don't really think of foliars as a primary source of nutrients, except in truely esoteric circumstances.

Just 'cause ya can, doesn't always mean that ya should...

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Originally Posted by Opie Yutts

Oddly enough, a little electrostatic charge will really help penetration on a foliar.
So how do I do DIY that without electrocuting myself?

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You in dirt or water?

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Originally Posted by rhizome

tho foliar application of silica is associated with a thicker cell membrane...

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Rhizome - Haven't seen you around here much lately. Hope you had a great holiday season!

What are the advantages of a thicker cell membrane? Is it anything that would warrant using silica on a regular basis as a matter of practice?

When you have a chance, would you please take a look at this thread and see if you have any thoughts on the subject. Thanks!!

PC :smokin:

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Originally Posted by Opie Yutts

Oddly enough, a little electrostatic charge will really help penetration on a foliar.
So how do I do DIY that without electrocuting myself?

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You fucking sissy! Wadda ya' think - you're going to live forever?:D

PC :smokin:

Heya PC- replyed in the other thread.

Thanks again for looking in rhizome, and to answer your question I am in water.

Don't worry I'm getting your point. Don't fry them. I understand. Everything within moderation, especially at first. I trust you very much, but I've just read too many good things lately not to give it a try. The guy at the hydro store made it sound like a miracle technique, Dutch Masters basically claims their Liquid Light is a miracle food, much the way you introduced SubCulture to me. That thread and the other things I read made it sound like a person would have to be a complete idiot to not use it.

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Originally Posted by PharmaCan

Wadda ya' think - you're going to live forever?:D

PC :smokin:

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Why? Does this not fit in with your plans?

Actually, no. It's depressing when you look at the stats and compare where I am on those age-wize.

yo rhizome that pic of cheney is making me feel sick

Well I went to get Liquid Light today, and the Spray n Grow rhizome recommended, and a couple more things. Turns out you cannot get the LL in my area at this time. Something about a problem with the info on the label. My guess is they decided to not actually lie, like they do on their web site. I mean come on, Really. It turns a 400 watt light into a 600. Not happening.

So, added to my supply area today,
- Dutch Master Max FX grow
- Dutch Master Max FX flower
- Spray-N-Grow micronutrient complex and biocatalyst (0.10% iron)
- 4 calibration fluid
- 7 calibration fluid
Coming Soon:
- Dutch Master Liquid Light

Anyone interested in trying foliar feeding as feeding supplement, I recommend you look here:
Dutch Master: FOLIAR TECHNOLOGIES
That page also talks about "Reverse" you may or may not have heard so much about, which stops hermies from producing male flowers (they say).

Just to throw in some (possibly) useless info here. I'm not at ALL scientific but my hydro guys knows me pretty well....and if this foliar spraying thing were that terrific I'm sure he would have mentioned it to me.. Everytime I go in I ask him if there is anything more I should be doing so and the last 4-5 times there hasn't been so I'm pretty darn sure I've updated my data recently. :D