Opie, I Need A Little Help

Pham i think there to stop particals from getting into the sprayer look: (its the 3 one down) i thought it was kinda pointless too but i think they gotta give them to you for a reason

GENERAL HYDROPONICS


also i let them get sprayed for the last 8 hours and no luck the rocks seem to be drying, i can only think when i have a hps on it will dry 1 a split second

This system includes:
â?¢ 17-Gallon Reservoir with Lid
â?¢ Six 6" Lid inserts
� Vortex® Sprayer
â?¢ 6â?� Plastic Cups
â?¢ CocoTek Liners
â?¢ CocoTek Caps
â?¢ 3-Part Flora Kit

this thing was kinda expensive to have problems like this

I'm really sorry you are having trouble like this, but regardless of what the seller told you, you're doing things weird and breaking new ground. I didn't see clay pellets in the list of what's included. Are you sure you are supposed to be using them with the liners? It just doesn't make sense to me, but then again I don't know a whole lot about the liners. That's why I asked the guy in the hydro store today about your situation. I was directed to him as the knowledgeable one in the store, and he said that those liners are not designed for spraying systems. You need to feed from above in some manner, probably by a drip system, or have a wick extending out the bottom of the pot, as I mentioned above. Yes, I'm quite proud of that since it was just off the top of my head. Either that or toss the liners. That would be my vote. Spraying is much better IMHO. The guy said you can do something similar to what you are trying, but you are supposed to use the cloth liners designed somewhat for your situation. They have good capillary action and water would get to the clay pellets. They're like $4 for a 6" net pot and not reusable. I'm pretty sure you don't need anything and should just consider spraying the hydroton.

Vortex® Sprayer lifts and oxygenates the nutrient solution, and then gently distributes it over cuttingâ??s bases or root systems.

I'm afraid it aint going to get to the root systems the way you are going about it.

You say it is to keep particles out of the solution. I'm pretty sure this is wrong. That's why they make filters. Or else the liners are for a soil situation and help keep soil particles in the pot. Seems like it would put Coco particles in the solution if anything. Or perhaps it is meant to hold coco fiber growing medium, maybe mixed with vermiculite or something. I'm fairly certain they were not meant to be used as filters, but perhaps you should run them through a couple search engines and see what you can learn. I have a feeling that what happened here is someone wanted to sell you a system that uses the "hot new thing", without really knowing how the thing is supposed to be used or what it was designed for.

Now having said all that. I very well could be wrong since I have not researched Coco liners, or even Coco very much. Hope we helped. Good luck.

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Originally Posted by PharmaCan

You should maybe think of ditching the coco cups and just use hydrotron in a net pot. Isn't that the most common way?

PC :smokin:

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Yes.

Word.

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Originally Posted by Opie Yutts

I'm really sorry you are having trouble like this, but regardless of what the seller told you, you're doing things weird and breaking new ground. I didn't see clay pellets in the list of what's included. Are you sure you are supposed to be using them with the liners? It just doesn't make sense to me, but then again I don't know a whole lot about the liners. That's why I asked the guy in the hydro store today about your situation. I was directed to him as the knowledgeable one in the store, and he said that those liners are not designed for spraying systems. You need to feed from above in some manner, probably by a drip system, or have a wick extending out the bottom of the pot, as I mentioned above. Yes, I'm quite proud of that since it was just off the top of my head. Either that or toss the liners. That would be my vote. Spraying is much better IMHO. The guy said you can do something similar to what you are trying, but you are supposed to use the cloth liners designed somewhat for your situation. They have good capillary action and water would get to the clay pellets. They're like $4 for a 6" net pot and not reusable. I'm pretty sure you don't need anything and should just consider spraying the hydroton.

Vortex® Sprayer lifts and oxygenates the nutrient solution, and then gently distributes it over cuttingâ??s bases or root systems.

I'm afraid it aint going to get to the root systems the way you are going about it.

You say it is to keep particles out of the solution. I'm pretty sure this is wrong. That's why they make filters. Or else the liners are for a soil situation and help keep soil particles in the pot. Seems like it would put Coco particles in the solution if anything. Or perhaps it is meant to hold coco fiber growing medium, maybe mixed with vermiculite or something. I'm fairly certain they were not meant to be used as filters, but perhaps you should run them through a couple search engines and see what you can learn. I have a feeling that what happened here is someone wanted to sell you a system that uses the "hot new thing", without really knowing how the thing is supposed to be used or what it was designed for.

Now having said all that. I very well could be wrong since I have not researched Coco liners, or even Coco very much. Hope we helped. Good luck.

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i just typed everything and acclidently hit the back button and lost it so.......

it deff supposto use clay pellets and cocoa liners because it came wit a 10lb bag of hydrotron and with the cocoa tek, and its was sealed in a general hydroponices box sealed with GH tamper tape saying dont accept if seal broken, also the vortex sprayer has no filter at all, (am i suppost to buy one? no where to really put it)

hhaa ""Yes, I'm quite proud of that since it was just off the top of my head"" yes it was a good idea

oh did your hydro guy hear of this thing before? i called a bunch of hydro stores who have not the slightest clue what the hell it was..
im going to order some cloth liners today and hope that fixes my problem,

thanks very much for your time

I ACTUALY FOUND INSTRUCTIONS (FEEL PROUD AND SLIGHTLY STUPID FOR NOT LOOKING ON GH.COM FOR THEM EARLIER)

http://www.generalhydroponics.com/ge...66_318_236.pdf

well about these cocoa lines apparently there made with natural rubber to help contain moisture?

from what i can tell im doing everything correct, but im still ordering the cloth liners

You don't need liners. Just use the plastic net pots.
The liners are one more thing to clog and host bacteria and fungus and algae.
As long as the hydroton doesn't fall out, and it shouldn't as they were designed to be used together, the liners are simply one mroe item that's GREAT for parting growers and their money.
The liners are necessary with a finer particle like perlite or coco coir, which WILL fall through and clog up your delivery systems.

Jimmy - Try to start two seeds - one in a net pot with just hydrotron, the other with a coco cup and hydroton. I think you'll find that you are fine with just the hydrotron.

PC :smokin: