First Grow, CFL w/ bagseed.
you going to need more room prolly.
i have about the same size box. However i useing different lights. 150watt hps, and 85 watt cfl (true watts) .
My cab is made out of cardboard as well. Figures it beats buying a 200$ storage cabient. for venting i use dual 4" inline fans, don't know the cfm but its pretty high.
i would suggest building a second cab for when you have to upgrade cab size. I have mine just chillen waiting for it. At least i HOPE i need it :rasta:
as far as your problems, stick your finger in the soil, if its wet, stop watering your plants. moist stop watering them, for at least 2-3 days. if it is BONE dry then add just a tiny bit of water.
first plant looks like it was over watered. the second and third picture looks like either nute burn, or heat stress.
First Grow, CFL w/ bagseed.
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Originally Posted by ebsters
you going to need more room prolly.
i have about the same size box. However i useing different lights. 150watt hps, and 85 watt cfl (true watts) .
My cab is made out of cardboard as well. Figures it beats buying a 200$ storage cabient. for venting i use dual 4" inline fans, don't know the cfm but its pretty high.
i would suggest building a second cab for when you have to upgrade cab size. I have mine just chillen waiting for it. At least i HOPE i need it :rasta:
as far as your problems, stick your finger in the soil, if its wet, stop watering your plants. moist stop watering them, for at least 2-3 days. if it is BONE dry then add just a tiny bit of water.
first plant looks like it was over watered. the second and third picture looks like either nute burn, or heat stress.
I think I could grown 7-8 plants in that room if I had square containers. If I kept them under 15" till the end of vegging. I should be able to utilize the entire space. It's alot bigger than what the picture would have you believe.
As far as the problems, yeah definitely either over watering or nute burn. I flushed the plants to try to get rid of the nutes so really it could be either problem.
Right now all I can do is hope my plants pull out of it. I can't flush them again, and I can't rip them out of their current soil. I was told that would kill them.
In the mean time I'm trying to germinate a mass quantity of other seeds. In a way I'm hoping all these plants do die. It would be kind of like a do over for me with all the CORRECT materials this time. Eliminates all the other variables.
How many plants do you have in your cardboard box. Do you have any pictures of your design?
First Grow, CFL w/ bagseed.
i have 5 in mine, all seedlings.
reason i say mine will not be big enough is cause i have a hps, and the plants cannot get all that close to it.
i will take some pictures, prolly tomorrow, look in my grow log for them.
First Grow, CFL w/ bagseed.
Went ahead and watered last night. 2 of the plants look like they're showing some growth. I can't be certain. I'm debating going ahead and just tossing 2 of the other plants (the two that look the most dead. lol. The brown one and the other pathetic looking one with dehydrated yellow first set of serrated leaves. Looks like it's been sitting in a desert).
Really I'd like to transfer them into square pots so I can make complete use of my space. but they aren't strong enough for a soil transfer. Hopefully over the next 2-3 weeks they'll come out of shock and start growing. Either that or I'll have my new crop germinated and I'll just start over from scratch.
New pictures will be posted next week. Hopefully I can clean the lens and get rid of the blur that was on most of the images too.
First Grow, CFL w/ bagseed.
Holy crap, I think my plants are starting to recover. It's been 3 days and 2 of the plants have shown pretty incredible growth. Even one of the plants I counted for dead might make it.
On the downside though, I don't think that little seedling is going to sprout out of it's shell. I dug around it a little and all that stalk, was pretty much root. It has tap roots but that main root turned into a stalk. I reburied and watered with superthrive hoping to get it to sprout. If I don't see anything from this in a few days I'm going to count this as a botched seedling.
The ups definitely outweight the downs. All my plants are showing growth. I'm still waiting for those seeds I set to germinate to sprout. It's been 3-4 days now and I still don't see anything I'm using these weird seed germination pods. Has anyone used these before? I attached some images. I pushed the seeds down into the pot with a nail head.. gently pushed them down so they would be buried a bit. I'm wondering if I should cut one of these pods open to see if a root has sprouted or not
Suggestions about the germination pods?
First Grow, CFL w/ bagseed.
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Originally Posted by teamgreentg
o ya im goin to go get that mylar blanket right now. thanks but when i go there what do i look for?
You can find it in the camping section of Walmart, Target, or some other similar department store. It will be called Emergency solar blanket. Or Thermal Blanket. Something along those lines.
Sorry I wasn't able to get back to you sooner.
First Grow, CFL w/ bagseed.
Tossed out all 30 of the seeds I was germinating. None of them were good. I suspect the Rapid Rooters were staying too wet to allow them to germinate properly.
I am going to go back to the paper towel/zip lock bag method. I stuck about 20 seeds in a cup last night and all but 2 of them sank. I will go ahead and be putting all 20 onto paper towels and check back on them in about 2 days. Once a large enough tap root shows I will be putting them into the rapid rooters and making sure each rapid rooter is neither dry nor overly saturated.
In the mean time I've bought some ph down and an actual digital PH tester. It looks like the soil test kit I bought may have given me inaccurate readings (it leaves too much powder from the capsules and thus makes it difficult to read). Currently I have the ph pen sitting in water for about an hour to help activate the sensors and disolve some sort of crystals as per the instructions, but an intial read of my tap water puts it at 7.7-7.9. Quite a BIG jump from the 6.8 I believed it to be.
I will start flushing one of my plants I believe trying to make a come back with 6.4 - 6.5ph water at it's next scheduled watering date and see if it's health improves over the course of a week..
In the mean time I am going to use a neutral PH to germinate the seedlings.
I'll report back as soon as I see results. In the mean time I will have new pictures coming Monday. I've also decided I may scrap about 3-4 of my current plants. They just might be too far gone and with this new found water PH problem (like everyone told me I had but I refused to be 100% open minded about it like an idiot) I may decide to scrap the entire crop and start over with these 20 seeds I have now.
First Grow, CFL w/ bagseed.
Dude.....They are weeds, they want to grow. Put them in some dirt, give em air and light, they will grow.....I think you are just messing with them too much and you are killing them. You should try not disturbing them so much, just sprout a seed, throw it in the medium, water it, don't water again till dirt is very dry, repeat.
First Grow, CFL w/ bagseed.
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Originally Posted by Nog
Dude.....They are weeds, they want to grow. Put them in some dirt, give em air and light, they will grow.....I think you are just messing with them too much and you are killing them. You should try not disturbing them so much, just sprout a seed, throw it in the medium, water it, don't water again till dirt is very dry, repeat.
What do you think I did the first time around. I obviously had a NUMBER of issues that needed to be remedied. First I had nuted soil, now I'm finding out the PH of my water is near 8. PH for this should be between 6.4-6.8 PH, my water is very Alkaline. Lighting wasn't horrible before, but it definitely wasn't adequate as I'm seeing now with the improved growth rate of the plants that do have problems even with the high Alkaline water.
I'm not sure if you've even read this entire thread, but the plants themselves have not had anything done to them that didn't need to be done. The only place I've been changing things up at is in the germination process. Which I could care less about since I have plenty of bag seeds.
I've had problems pretty much since my seeds have sprouted and all I did was water them, wait till they were dry, water them again.
Thanks for your input but I feel you're off the mark here. I definitely have a number of issues I wasn't aware of when I first started growing that I have evidence for. It's not just a simple issue of water, let dry, and give it air/light. If that's all it was then my plants would be flourishing.
I've seen your grow and it looks good, but try throwing a newly germinated seed into some nuted soil, water it with water that's been PH'd to about 7.9, and then stick it under some T12 lighting that is in the wrong color spectrum (3500K) and let's see exactly how well it grows. I bet your plants end up looking like mine ;). Yes I screwed up alot, but at least I know what I've done wrong for future reference.
First Grow, CFL w/ bagseed.
So I decided to just go ahead and flush one of the better looking plants (if there is such a thing) with water that was PH'd to 6.4. I flushed the pot with about 3 16 oz cups of the new water. The final run off ph of the soil was 6.6.
Just for comparison I ran the soil run off on the pot that had the failed seedling in it using the water I normally used. The soil run off ph on this was 7.8.
I decided to flush one of the plants now because if it shows improvement fairly quickly then I can possibly save the other plants just as fast. Or at least I'll know how. There's still high probability that I'm going to kill this entire batch once I determine all the problems I've brought upon myself.
