Ron Pauls Record in Congress

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Originally Posted by GoldenGoblin

gives power back to the states to let them decide on nearly all those issues.

it is time to shake the tree.

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The only thing with the abortion issue is that if states were the law makers.....there are times when only the richer folk would be able to transport their "loved ones" to a state where it is legal and it would just promote illegal abortions to be done.

If you look at his bills that he has submitted; It doesn't even state that the states would have the right to give a pro-abortion law but instead enables the states to regulate the penalties.

Have a good one!:s4:

dang that was a long read but i'd have to say RP is pretty spot-on. IDK why people want 'the government' to be involved with your life so much. shit i spent two summers working on the street dept and I stole 8$ everyday in time i spent not working, be it sitting in a truck, reading a newspaper, taking two lunches, enjoying a nap, stopping at a bar, or going fishing (all things I did while on the clock) and whats funny is EVERYONE else was doing it too. 30+ people employed each wasting an hour a day at about $10+- adds up to a shit ton of money. thanks for the taxes biaches

I've considered myself pro-choice...a 'liberal' kind of guy. And Ron Paul is saying - it's ok to have a choice and have liberty. A number of Paul's positions on civil liberties are based on states' rights, the idea that U.S. states possess certain rights and political powers in relation to the federal government, known as federalism. According to Paul, "Statesâ?? rights simply means the individual states should retain authority over all matters not expressly delegated to the federal government in Article I of the Constitution.

Paul has said that the ninth and tenth amendments to the U.S. Constitution do not grant the federal government any authority to legalize or ban abortion, stating that "the federal government has no authority whatsoever to involve itself in the abortion issue".

And the shrimp thing exposes your neo-con roots.

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Originally Posted by 420izzle

Paul has said that the ninth and tenth amendments to the U.S. Constitution do not grant the federal government any authority to legalize or ban abortion, stating that "the federal government has no authority whatsoever to involve itself in the abortion issue".

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Then explain the numorous bills that he has submitted. I posted one....not that hard to read.

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Originally Posted by 420izzle

And the shrimp thing exposes your neo-con roots.

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AHHHHH....Prison Planet, be sure to buy a cap!:thumbsup:

Have a good one!:s4:

That is very interesting Psycho4bud. I never knew about the abortion thing. I agree wholeheartedly with everything else, but abortion, before a certain time at least, is the right of the woman. I still like him hella more than any other candidate, but that grates on my nerves. I do think that the states should decide these things. Also, you said:

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The only thing with the abortion issue is that if states were the law makers.....there are times when only the richer folk would be able to transport their "loved ones" to a state where it is legal and it would just promote illegal abortions to be done.

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Explain this. It isn't difficult to go to another state. Hell, I can hitchhike across state lines if it's really that important, which preventing your life from being destroyed is important.

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Originally Posted by Mohksha

Explain this. It isn't difficult to go to another state. Hell, I can hitchhike across state lines if it's really that important, which preventing your life from being destroyed is important.

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Look at some younger girl living in the center of the Bible Belt. She can't hardly afford the operation besides having to make a trip that would be WAY out of range of thumbing it. All this will do is promote the old back door clothes hanger abortions again.

This is TOTALLY against his basic platform of the Constitution: Separation of Church and State. The abortion issue is the religious sectors fight........yet he still submits bills?
Pet projects, like the shrimp industy.
Pro marijuana? Just because he submitted a bill for legal hemp? Where are the bills for medical mj?

This dude is a JOKE who knows how to play up to the younger sector.

Have a good one!:s4:

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Look at some younger girl living in the center of the Bible Belt. She can't hardly afford the operation besides having to make a trip that would be WAY out of range of thumbing it. All this will do is promote the old back door clothes hanger abortions again.

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Wait a second. I can walk down the street to my local Planned Parenthood and get a FREE abortion. There are always charities. Always. I can understand the distance problem, but I could most definitely work up $40 for a bus ticket in 3 months. You have a long time to take care of these things. The only thing that could stop you is hesitation, or maybe laziness. Plus, if you are too young to be traveling around, you shouldn't have gotten pregnant. Nothing in life is risk free, and everyone knows it. I'm tired of people pretending like they should be able to go around fucking left and right without expecting any consequences. Even if it is just one time, or "just the tip," you would have to be a fucking idiot to not realize that your ovaries are producing eggs. I'm all for personal choice, but with personal choice comes personal responsibility.

What excuse does that 17, 18 year old girl give to ma and pa.....not to mention the money aspect.

Between her and the boyfriend I would hope they could gather the cash for the procedure but it's the traveling aspect. Why should a lil' rich bitch have easier access to a procedure of this nature?

Have a good one!:s4:

Wow Ron Paul sounds like my kind of guy.

Ron Paul is an OBGYN who has delivered over 4,000 babies and believes in protecting life/the unborn.

He does, although, think the states should vote on it. The federal government should not be involved.