The great gun-control debate

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No problem...........

Have a good one!

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Thanks P4B:thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by the_candyman_707

i don't see any reason to ever own a gun
if u say "for self protection" you wouldn't need the gun if others didn't have guns

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Do you actually believe you can take all the guns away? As was said earlier, outlaw guns and only outlaws have them.
What about the elderly, disabled, and small women? Heck, what about anybody really. If 3 big guys launch a home invasion into your property, should we be left defenseless? Guns aren't just for protecting against guns.

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can you honestly say that rifles are ok but shotguns not so much on the grounds that you don't need to "disintegrate the burglar's head".....

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As I said, I didn't have a firm possition on this one.

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you obviously don't know anything about guns...

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That's a gross over-generalization.

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a 50cal. will take a mans head off at well over a mile away(research that before you say it's not true)

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I don't doubt it. Still, most rifles aren't going to take a head off and they are a bit of overkill. Anyway I don't have any great objection to shotguns, it was just a thought. Keep 'em legal for all I care.

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we have deer seasons for pistols here in the us.......

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I'm sure the hunters will live if they have to use a rifle. Far more often than less, rifles are used for hunting and all you need. Pistol deer hunting just seems unncessary.

the only way theyll take my gun away is to pry it outa my cold dead hand.
guns are tools. its like the old saying " guns dont kill people, people kill people"
and as far as shotguns well its much easier to kill birds and small game with a shotgun than a rifle. s why my 12 guage has a goose barrel but i do use a 410 on rabbit and squirrel.
also ask your self this how strange is it that me , a liberal and a hippie owns guns and enjoys hunting

made me think of this
[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ABGIJwiGBc[/YOUTUBE]

I am an American, a female, and a Democrat ( one of them damn liberals!), and I own a gun. Yes, it is registered. I think I'd be a fool not to have one. These are not pretty times. I would only use it to protect myself, but make no doubt about it, I would use it if I had to. I DON'T look for trouble, but I'm ready for it.
I target shoot, also. And thats very fun.:gunfighter2:
( Btw my gun is a 22 auto long rifle hand gun.).

I chose the allow all but assault weapons. Why assault when a weapons main use is for defense? However I'm all set with all those people who would be walking around with the John Wayne mentality. Unfettered gun control might work somewhere like East Nowhere, TX with a population of 500-1000, but in New York City and its population of 9 million its a whole new ballgame. It doesn't help when rappers are promoting gangs and violence and parents are not parenting. I believe there are better ways to curb or eliminate violence other then arming our citizens. Ending the drug war will cut crime by leaps and bounds.

I would rather see people armed to defend themselves against government then each other.

I own many weapons.... none of which are assault weapons. They are all for either hunting, sport, or defense.

Gun control is being able to hit you target. Proficienacy is the key.

95% of the auto-pistols on the street are weapons of war, and as a rule, revolvers are not. I don't figure that John Q Public has a need for assult weapons or other weapons of war. Leave those for law enforcement and military.

FWIW, the target is from my 30-06 @ 200 yards and the bull only measures 1 inch

I just got back from 10 months working in New Orleans, carried a 45. (yes I'm just a private citizen) Louisiana recognizes my home State's carry permit.

Its not NY but there wasn't any problem, I just laugh at people who say I shouldn't own/carry a gun , any gun because "they think" so:D

"Better to have it, and not need it..... than it is to need it and not have it"

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Originally Posted by the_candyman_707

i don't see any reason to ever own a gun
if u say "for self protection" you wouldn't need the gun if others didn't have guns

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Originally Posted by Dutch Pimp

"Better to have it, and not need it..... than it is to need it and not have it"

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aside from those demented few who either believe that it is our god given right to wander around armed to the teeth or that we should all be required to give up our guns and bow down to the almighty power of the state, we all fit into one of the above two categories.

one side seems to believe that the government is capable of magically gathering up all of the guns in the nation and protecting the honest citizens from any dangers that may remain. where they came by this devotion to the infallibility of our government i will never know, but they seem to be willing to put their safety and their future in the hands of institutions that have proven time and again that they are both incompetent and corrupt.

the other side seems to have a similarly undying faith in the abilities of the common man. they seem to believe that the folks in their neighborhood are perfectly capable of subduing their baser instincts, even though domestic violence is commonplace and many of us don't even have enough patience to wait for the next green light. they also seem to think that everyone has the capacity to handle a firearm. i don't know who y'all hang out with, but most folks i know shouldn't be trusted with a sharpened stick let alone a fully automatic tec-9 with a 36 round clip.

i haven't the faintest idea which side is right, though i suspect the answer lies somewhere in between. i voted for all guns to be legal because i revel in chaos and because i find the idea of housewives wandering the supermarket aisles with uzis in their shopping carts perversely amusing.

Better to have them and not need them then to need them and not have them!