TINCTURES

Ok, im here again. Didnt went to another dimensions... :( yet.
From my yesterday's experiment:

I used a far greater amount of hash oil this time. Roughly 10x the amount i would smoke usually. This amount, if drank or eaten would get me reasonably high for a large amount of time.
Unfortunately, the weed i used for making this hash oil was not very good (some mids 9 months old :(). I smoked it today, and the high was weaker than i would expect... so, probably it had a major influence in the results.

Anyway... this time i used (rougly) 0.15 cm3 of hash oil, 4 cm3 of alcohol and 1.5 cm3 of glicerin. Again, i did put the hash oil in the test tube, added the alcohol, shaked until dissolve all the hash oil, then added the glicerin, shaked until they mix, put the test tube in a can with boiling water and waited.
This time, not all the alcohol evaporated, even with almost 1 hour of heating. From the original 5.5 cm3 of the mixture, remained about 2.5 cm3, so, rougly 1 cm3 of alcohol didnt evaporated.

Also, this time the amount of the tar-like resin produced was far greater... of course, i used a far greater amount of hash oil, but also the quality of this hash oil was much worst, so probably it has more tars, useless resins, and so.
After cooled, the glicerin was murky green. I put it under the tongue for some 5 minutes and could clearly distinguish the taste of alcohol which had remained unevaporated.

After some 20 minutes, i started to feel the symptoms of a high coming... relaxation of the eyes, a slight heaviness of the members (as if i were doing things in somewhat slow motion) and so... Also, i felt slow-minded, and somewhat retarded...
The effects were increasing unsteadily, like waves... there was times i would feel i was high, then some minutes after i would feel very less high, then some minutes after i would feel very high again, and so...
I think i reached the peak after some 1.5-2 hours after the start. During the peak, i was almost as stoned as if i had smoked the hash oil.

So, i think it works. I used an amount that would make me high, and i went almost as high as i would expect from ingesting this amount.

There is some notes, though. This weed i used wasnt good indeed. I think it was too old. The effects i felt, putting under the tongue and smoking it were not much like the usual THC high, of the CBD stone. It were more like the CBN "messed" feeling, what makes sense, as the CBN is the product of the oxidation of the THC, what certainly happened cause the weed was very old.

Also, i think i used too much alcohol when dissolving the hash oil. I think if i had used less, probably there would not be any remaining alcohol in the tincture. Im not sure, but i think it may interfere in the absortion of the glicerin. Even if it does not, the taste of alcohol in the tincture is not good at all.

So, i think i can conclude this method actually works. Right now im isomerizing this "bad" hash oil i get, and if i get a decent high from it, i will try this tincture again.

If anyone were to try it, try to use the smallest possible amount of alcohol and glicerin, or, in other words, make the tincture as concentrated (strong) as possible. As stronger the tincture, smaller is the amount needed to put under the tongue, and faster the absortion. I think if you have too much tincture under your tongue (as i did), not all the tincture will be in direct contact with the "undertongue", and so not all the tincture will be absorved.

Tomorrow, the day after, or whenever i try to make the tincture with the isomerized hash oil im making, ill post again.

Meanwhile, if anyone try it, please post here the results. :thumbsup:

Thanks for posting these results. This looks like a good technique.

Well... today i tried it again, with bad results... i only went barely high... even if the hash oil were good.
I tried to make a stronger tincture, so i used 0.17 cm3 of hash oil and added about 4 cm3 of alcohol. I heated it in the boiling water to evaporate some alcohol and make the solution stronger. The remaining volume of alcohol, after heating, was about 2 cm3.
Then i added about 1.5 cm3 of glicerin, mixed well, and heated again, for evaporating the remaining alcohol. This time, the amount of tar-like substance produced was much greater. After some 30 minutes of heating, the volume of the solution was about 2.7 cm3.
I separated the solution, and as i had read that not all THC went to the glicerin, but some remained in this tar-like thing, even if the process were perfectly done (as the rate of thc in the resin/glicerin is a chemical constant.), i also colected this tar-like thing. As after taking the glicerin from the test-tube, most of the tar was glued to the walls of the test tube, i scraped it from there. After cooled, it was almost equal to the original hash oil, only softer.
I tried this tincture, and had only mild effects. The rhymes i did write in the lounge were the only result of the tincture. I were slightly stoned, but only it.
BUT... yes... now is the best part. After realizing the high wouldnt increase anymore, i smoked the resin i has scraped. And went HIGHH. Of course, the amount i smoked was FAR greater than i smoke usually, as for making this tincture the amount needed is greater, but the effects were FAR greater also... so, i could conclude that this time most of THC had remained in the tar-like oil, and only a small amount of it went to the glicerin.

As the only difference between the process i did today to what i did yesterday was the concentration of the solution of hash oil in alcohol, i must conclude that it was the cause. So, next time i will try with more alcohol, like i did previously.

And well... at least im stoned! :thumbsup::stoned::rastasmoke:

Good to know, thanks for the testing. I'm outta weed and gotta drop urines every week so I rarely get to enjoy my herb as much as I used too.

I'd buy them cleansing drinks, but at the Adult Parole Authority (APA) they expect me to test positive for methaone and xanax so thats outta the picture. Only thing I can do is stop smoking, piss in some bottles and freeze them for later use as they do not watch me drop urine.

dude that sucks...about your parole thing.

Coelho, if some under your tongue will get you high. Could you use a solid like baking soda or something to absord that liquid, and then snort it? I really wouldn't want to do that, but for the sake of experimentation, I'd like to know if that would be plausible. I've seen the forum topics where someone asked if you can snort it and then get flamed, but since we're talking science, I'd like to know the plausibility of that theory?

Well... thats a very weird idea... even if it were possible, the amount of material you should snort would be too large... the least amount of tincture i tried with positive results was 2 cm3... so, imagine to snort 2 cm3 of anything... i think there would be no room for it, even in the world's largest nose...

BTW, im starting to feel disappointed with this tinctures... i tried it again and feel only barely high... one hour after using it... im sure i should feel higher... Dont know what went wrong this time... i think i will give up and come back to smoking, which NEVER EVER failed to get me high... :rastasmoke:

yeah, that was my problem...the amount needed to snort...what's the problem with the tinctures as they stand? weakness?

Yes... most of THC remains in the oil, and only a small amount goes to the glicerin... or, maybe, as the oil im using is not so good, the amount i use isnt enough for making me high...

hmmm...there has to be a way...

I am wondering if maybe it just takes more time or more heat to get all the THC disolved into the glycerine. The original post about the glycernie technique was one of those things where you have to wait for months. Because glycerine has a much higher boiling temp than water or alcohol, I wonder what would happen if you combined your ingredients and then put them in the oven at say 300F for awhile until the heat disolved them? I'm not planning to try it, but I'll throw it out there as an idea.

Personally, I am thinking of just adding some glycerine to my green dragon liqueur. if you look at recipes for other liqueurs, such as Creme de Menthe, many of them involve an optional step of adding glycerine to the recipe to add a nice smooth texture to the drink. Also, I think it can help with stability. I think I will add a few tablespoons to the next 750 ml i make.