Dance, Monkeys, Dance!

i'd say it's a completely fair and true analysis.... and everyone who refuses it is actualy in denial.. as the video states, our species of monkey likes to show and prove how it's diffrent...

and personally, the point of "they think they're supposed to be happy" is probably the strongest point of the entire video... o.0 honestly... we are the only species (well to our knowledge, there's no way to have intelligent communication with other animals, but i still doubt it's wrong) that can't just be... most everything is based around our happiness... actually if you think about it... most everything that's fucked up in the world, could be directly related to our need for being happy...

wanna test it? name something we desire/want/fight to obtain and i'll show you how it can be directly related to our need to be happy... and i don't mean some off the wall obscure shit lol.... you can find a link to from anything to anything if you try hard enough, but those tend to get really obscure and weird... i mean actualy strong links...

as an example (since this is here) we fear death (for the most part) we fear once we're gone we're gone, so we invent religion/afterlife theories, so that we can cope with being gone... and even more so (and more importantly to my point) so we can find a way to cope with losing loved ones.... since death of loved ones usually causes the exact opposite of happiness, there you go... we can forever live in the 'knowledge' that our loved ones haven't disappeared from existance, they've simply entered a new realm...

I think evolution is good for describing or explaining how lower form animals can develop into higher form animals yet the mystery of the application of evolution to humans is one that still plagues us.

As the Bible states "let us make man in our image"

I think we should pay very close attention to this phrase, who is "us"? Clearly we are talking of more than one, we must be talking of a race or a certain population.

The Bible statement also describes how man already existed, and that man was simply "changed" evolution also states that we did not evolve from the animals present we see today (pay attention to this), that they have also been on the same evolutionary path as man, so what caused this dramatic what I would call acceleration of evolution? Maybe a good explanation would be that there was an external catalyst.

Wouldnt you agree?

Clearly we are in an age of supreme technology (HA!), rationality and resoning in which we can interpret the Bible related to current thinking and one of these thoughts being that alien intervention in the chance happening of man did take place.

And also it does not say anything about creating man, it states let us change or evolve man to be in the likeness of OUR image.

In other words, lets change man to suit what we want.

Our image.

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Originally Posted by Fallen_Icarus

I think evolution is good for describing or explaining how lower form animals can develop into higher form animals yet the mystery of the application of evolution to humans is one that still plagues us.

As the Bible states "let us make man in our image"

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The video is not about evolution. It is intended to snap humans out of their ridiculous and self important notion that they are somehow more advanced than other animals...as far as the "let us make man in our image..." thing goes: The Bible was written by Man in order to portray God in Man's image...but this is a separate subject...

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Originally Posted by Fallen_Icarus

...The Bible statement also describes how man already existed, and that man was simply "changed" evolution also states that we did not evolve from the animals present we see today (pay attention to this), that they have also been on the same evolutionary path as man, so what caused this dramatic what I would call acceleration of evolution? Maybe a good explanation would be that there was an external catalyst.

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I have no problem entertaining the idea that human consciousness evolved from the psychoactive substances, as put forth by Terrence McKenna...but I am a silly ape and don't know no better...what I do know, however, is that people who do not smoke marijuana are way down on the evolution scale, and just as low in the grace of God (depending on your belief system).:hippy:

Yes. I do not think the video is about evolution.

It's a humorous way to look at human behavior, looking at it from the perspective of monkeys behaving the way we do. Human beings are animals, and some of the things we do are bizarre when you compare it to other animals. But I think the video oversimplifies a few things to make it's point and to be funny.

One difference between humans and most other animals is our ability to visualize different possibilities. We can think about a different kind of future and visualize a world that is different from the way the world is now. Most animals I think do not have a concept of the future. I think they mostly react to the moment and act on instinct. So the point the video makes about people trying to be happy while other animals just find a way to simply BE is kind of oversimplified. Humans can visualize a way to change things so that they will be happier, and can work toward it, while animals cannot. Of course, the problem is that humans aren't always correct about what will make them happy. And often our more monkey-like animal instincts for how to make ourselves happy comes at the expense of other people who are trying to be happy too.

I also thought that the video oversimplified the peacefulness of the animal world. Animals of all kinds can act violently in their own self interest. Part of the problem with humans is that we have the capacity to leverage those undesireable instincts with a lot of intelligence and technology. We're able to act violently in our own self interest in a much bigger way.

We are different than most animals. Better? That's all dependant on perspective, but the difference is undeniable.

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We are different than most animals. Better? That's all dependant on perspective, but the difference is undeniable.

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Though, yes, we're different than other animals, I don't personally think we're any better or worse than they are. We can raise our species up on a pedestal and call ourselves superior, or knock ourselves down and call ourselves really f*cked up monkeys, but I don't think either extreme is accurate or beneficial to our situation. In reality, we're all part of the same web of life, we all rely on each other. From a certain angle, one could say that we're all the same organism.

The biggest difference between us & other animals is disappointment. They never get disappointed. It's a driving factor for humans.