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Originally Posted by BeforeYourTime
sorry mate but you the one that aint got a clue , do you even grow? flushing is wat hydro growers do ,, people flush soil if they using chemical salts but 99% of organic soil growers will tell you that your talking out ya arse ,,, next time get ya facts right before you give me negative rep , i base my comments n posts on facts , not wat ive seen posted by others
You are talking out of your arse m8! Ive grown weed organically and non-organically for years. Flushing the soil DOES force the plant to use stored chemicals, which in turn flushes your plant.Quote:
Originally Posted by elstonite
Nitrogen/Phosphorous/Pottasium etc are the SAME chemicals wether they are taken from a chemical or organic source. If you dont Flush the soil the plant will continue to uptake these chemicals. The leaves on your plants will yellow naturally wether you flush or not. But the chemicals will still remain if you dont.
You have negative rep because you refuse to accept that you are completely wrong. Its basic chemistry, and common sence.
Enjoy your non flushed "organic weed" .
read up on organic growing m8 , youll find the answer
put "when to flush organic fertilised cannabis" into google.Quote:
Originally Posted by elstonite
1st result
Grow organic read bottom of page
Pot that has been fertilized right up to harvest is harsh to smoke, sometimes the joint will even sizzle and pop as unmetabolized fertilizer salts combust. Un-flushed pot leaves black ash, is hard to keep lit and burns your throat. Pot which has been organically grown and properly flushed is more flavourful and fragrant, burns easily, leaves grey ash, is easier on the throat and is much more pleasurable to smoke.
seems your wrong... again
yep good article , dated 1999 , back when everyone flushed even in organics , since then things have changed mate , i wont mention the name but theres a few organic experts on other weed forums ,, they can give you a more up to date view on organics ,,,the concensus these days is theres no need to flush if using good organic soil n feeds and if you feed correctly ,,,its 2007 btw
I've talked to experienced growers that flush their mediums before they change nutrients mid grow... It's a technique that's used in both hydroponics and soil...with a fully certified organic nutrients like the Bio-Canna line from Holland you don't have the same necessity for flushing.. as you are using fully organic material. However, It is still an option for the grower.
Flush or don't Flush.. it can or can't make a fairly large difference.. it all depends.
You got negative rep (from me anyway) for this comment
"no need to flush the dirt, we dont smoke the dirt do we now lol ,,and you cant remove wats already in the plant no matter how many ltrs of water you push through the soil."
Not only was the comment a snide one.. but it wasn't entirely correct in being informative.
You personally can not remove anything from the plant.. but you can help the plant to use up the nutrients it has already by flushing out the medium with 4 or 5 times the amount that you usually water.
Wether or not you do this before you harvest has a lot to do with the type of nutrients you've used through-out the grow and how heavy of a feeding regiment you've had it on.
Elstonite, I've grown. I've also compared between a flushed and a non flushed plant. I gotta say, I prefer the taste of a flushed plant.
P.s. I sell hydroponics and HiD lighting for a living, so i'm pretty sure i know what i'm talking about.
The year makes no difference, the industry has NOT changed that much in the past 8 years. Only growers and opinions have.Quote:
Originally Posted by elstonite
Science for the win.
btw my ash is white , theres no bad taste ,no pop n crackle . the reason behind this is as ive said at the end of the plants life it will stop feeding if fed organically , like in nature .. this doesnt happen with chemical salt based nutes as the raw salts are in contact with your rootzone so they continue to feed ,, do you understand now ?
horses foe courses then , sum do sum dont , personally i wont whilst im using organic nutes n soils ,,,ill agree to disagree and take back any remarks implying you dont grow and dont know shit , but i still think the neg rep was harsh , others followed your lead in that thread leaving me - 11 points for wat was basically a honest well intended answer ,,not in your words (giving out wrong advise)
Hence.. the reason for flushing!!Quote:
Originally Posted by elstonite
Not everyone uses fully organic nutrients... making flushing for some people a necessity.
I've always understood this.. I've just been trying to avoid misconceptions that seem to be stemming from this thread.
Fully Organic Nutrients = Optional Flush
50/50 Organic/Synthetic Nutrients = Should be flushed (Can use a clearing solution.)
Fully Synthetic (eg. D.N.F or Advanced Nutrients) = Must Flush
If flushing was a myth, they wouldn't make products designed specifically for removing excess salts from the medium before harvest.
P.S.
I wouldn't worry to much about the Rep here.. it's only for "fun". Within the first week of it being enabled... I was at -165 points.. you can disable it if you'd like by going to options in your "User CP."
Bob.