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getting to heaven has nothing to do with how nice you are. According to christianity (opinion of course) eeveryone is automatically going to hell because of adam and eve. So the only way o get to heaven is to REPENT! i havent yet

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Originally Posted by juggalo420

if theres a heaven, i proberly wont go there. i mean im a good person i help people out, i dont hurt people, im against the death penalty and war in iraq, i havent stolen in a long while,, but im sure if gods real he'd cast me into hell cause i dont praise his name or even believe hes real.

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Originally Posted by Kid Dynamite

getting to heaven has nothing to do with how nice you are.

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100% correct

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Originally Posted by Kid Dynamite

According to christianity (opinion of course) eeveryone is automatically going to hell because of adam and eve.

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According to Christianity everyone is going to hell because no one deserves heaven. Everyone has sinned aka: screwed up so no one is good enough to make it into a perfect place. Thats where Jesus and his sacrifice comes into play. He makes us clean aka: good enough in God's eyes to be aloud in heaven because he was good enough aka: sin free and able to be the perfect sacrifice.

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Originally Posted by Kid Dynamite

So the only way o get to heaven is to REPENT! i havent yet

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According to Christianity it's not repent its two simple things.

1) Believe

Believe Jesus was the person he said he was and did the things he did. Such as he was a person, he died on the cross for our sins, he arose from the dead three days later with rules such as 10 commandments concord because we couldn't up hold them.

2) Love

Love your neighbor. Not just physical neighbor but everyone that you come in contact with because at that time they are your neighbor.


God knows we screw up and can't love everyone we meet. He knows we aren't perfect and tend to screw up at times. God knows everything we have and will go through in life and knows the reason why we do certain things. Because God knows all things bad things about us he knew we needed something to make us clean aka: right in his eyes in order to let us in heaven. The way to make us right was to become human himself and go through life sin free and become the perfect sacrifice for the things he created.

We're not perfect and we will never be perfect but we can be perfect in his eyes if we accept the gift he has offered us.

Rev. Michael T
Soldier for Christ

meek mike, what ur saying is totally making sense right now. i finally get what chrisitianity is about. stupid catholic school put it all out of wack for me. i am christian and what mike is saying makes a lot of sense and could possibly b tru.

id rather just live my life the way i wanna (drugs,long hair-o no!! etc,) and find out what happens when i die. who fuckiin nos what awaits us when we die. maybe heaven, maybe were all creations from aliens. who knows

later

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Originally Posted by F L E S H

Heaven and Hell are a state of mind.

Be at peace with yourself upon your death, you will go to whatever heaven pleases you. Die filled with shame and regret, and that will be your hell. I don't need anyone telling me where I'll go when I die.

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wow :eek: we see it same way :D
religion is a state of mind :confused:

if you feel like your headed to heaven,then i doubt it
cuase people rarely see thier own flaws

me,im flawed as any other human
but i have a right and wrong feeling about things,
i try my best to live up to my standards
which is,
heaven would be hell to me cuase i like a beer buzz,i like a good hour or two of sex for pleasure not baby making
ect ect long list im sure ya dont want to read
bottom line is
its all in your head
peace

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Originally Posted by NowhereMan

if you feel like your headed to heaven,then i doubt it
cuase people rarely see thier own flaws

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That is such a true statement. I started to play poker not to long ago. At first I was fairly good. Won a few pots but after a while I started to lose lots and lots of money. I didn't realize my own flaws (for poker "TELLS") until someone pointed them out to me. Sometimes it takes a smack in the face (or losing lots of money) before the person (in this case me) can see his own flaws.

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Originally Posted by NowhereMan

but i have a right and wrong feeling about things,

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Where or Who do you think these feelings come from?

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Originally Posted by NowhereMan

heaven would be hell to me cuase i like a beer buzz,

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Then heaven is the perfect place for you. Heaven is perfect so the beer most likely is th ebest beer ever. The Bible doesn't say we can't have beer in fact the Bible says to give beer and wine to certain people. BIBLE QUOTE:

Proverbs 31:6-7

Give beer to those who are dying, wine to those who are sad let them drink and remember their misery no more.

So if the Bible says to give it to people I think it will be provided in heaven. Of course it might not be there might only be the sticky icky icky but what evr is there I know I won't complain.

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Originally Posted by NowhereMan

i like a good hour or two of sex for pleasure not baby making

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In my belief system which is Christianity God made everything including sex. So if God made sex he not only did it so we could have babies but he made it so it was fun and enjoyable. Theres nothing wrong with having sex. Of course I think it's best between married fokes but I'm not perfect and didn't wait until marriage so I can't really say it's only for married people.

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Originally Posted by NowhereMan

its all in your head

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How can one be certain about that. Look at all the unexplained accurances in the world. People dying on hospitle operating tables and coming back with visions of heaven etc. Just ask I believe his name was HeartSurgerySurviver. He can tell you what he saw when he died. Of course that's your beleif and I can't question your beleifs. I just say keep an open mind about things like that cause there are lots and lots of people that believe and have experianced something that is very hard to discribe to those that haven't experianced it. Of course it could just be all in our minds. Who knows.

Rev. Michael T
Soldier for Christ and Cannabis

Not Enough Herb-

Thanks for giving me some encouragement. I was coming very close to not writting anything any more. I thought no one was understanding what I had to say and no one was believing me about Christianity and how it really is. It sucks sometimes being a Christian because most people have there minds made up about us and our beliefs with out really knowing anything about us and our beliefs. I didn't go to a Christian school or anything I just read my Bible and learned from experiances. Listen to your conscience cause that always says whats right or wrong making me beleive it could be the Holy Spirit. Again just a Thank you for lifting my spirits.

Rev. Michael T
Soldier for Christ