My Grow ( In case anyone cares)
Ok.. try to anwser.. The Black is not a Nute def.. Its spreadable by touch to unaffected tips. Its some kinda mold but fungicide has done nothing..I put up some shots and asked for help in the problems thread but noone has seen it before..
And Yes its just 3 plants in the scrog shots thats only a shot of two plants you see. The one nice growing one is about 4 feet by 5 feet across the wire and the one with the black tips is about 3 X3. Stan (The tall one ) its hard to tell I'll have to set my camera and take a shot with me standing beside her but shes about 6 or 7 inches taller than me .. I cut the lower branches because she started early and was pretty straight up so cut all the lower stuff to give Ollie more room for her fat ass.
And on the finish.. I cut all nutes and go with just water for the last 2 weeks and I spray em all over during water, The No Water on the buds or leaves for 3 days before harvest.
The last two grows I have had to make a Vis-Screen tent around them for the last few weeks of finish as it starts to get frosty in the mornings around here and before I started doing that I would get the occasional frost bit buds. I bought some 12 foot Re-Bar rods and just plunk them in the ground in a circle around the whole grow and wrap the vis-screen around and over .. the heat of the ground keeps them just above freezing during the cold fall nights. As they progress I'll pop in some more pics of the plants and bud and some of the final harvest and Hash , I have a Soxflet Refluxer lab setup to make hash but lately I been using Butane and made a lab glass extractor that can hold about 2 oz of fine grind and gives about 15 grams of hash per run. If anyone is interested in that setup or the Soxflet setup let me know and I'll do a write up with pics the next time I make a batch. You get more hash from the Soxflet than butane but the butane produced a much purer extraction.
Also after harvest I trim all the buds and put them in a big Brown paper bag and turn daily until cured . I find this gives the best color and texture cure , much better than hang drying. To make hash I then dry in low oven 120deg until very,very dry and grind in a morter and pestal to a fine flour then extract.
One of these days I'm a gona have to get some really good seeds but being on a fixed VA income I just can't bring myself to pay 10 bucks a seed. Guess I'll just have to wait till the Seed Fairy drops in to visit some day... Being an old gezzer way back in the sticks of KY I'm patient ... Just jump on my HD and ride the hills with a buss that makes all the pretty flowers look so much better.. If anyone is interested in photos of rides and flowers I take as I go about the mountians heres where I put all my photos and writings (Every boys gota have a hobby)
Register with fubar - the first online bar and happy hour ( its a free site so don't think its advertizing and crap... If anyone goes there make sure you drop me a note and I'll add ya to my friends list ... Tip of the hat fellers...
My Grow ( In case anyone cares)
Oh By The Way... Just a thought from an old man thats been growing for some 35 years both inside and out.. I think some make it way to complicated. Its a weed.. And I've tried Hydro indoor, hydro out door, soil in and out, High tech digital control fully automated grow room using CO2 injection and a machine controler for all the feed water light stuff ( Direct Logic controlers) and have had just as good smoke if I plant a seed in good soil with simple miricle grow nute and a bag of good dirt as any thing I have tried ..and get more also.. So just from an old grower thats pretty much tried everything .. simplify your life ... Enjoy the moments of just watching plants grow and spend less time trying to find that perfect formula .. Plants do better with Less not More.. In an outdoor grow Nutes are way less important than indoor as nature will provide most of the good stuff.. Lifes to short to sweat the little shit... Enjoy every moment as each can only be lived once and can never be relived again...
My Grow ( In case anyone cares)
My Grow ( In case anyone cares)
A few new shots of Stan,Ollie and Scrog
My Grow ( In case anyone cares)
Quote:
Originally Posted by hydrocannabis
holy shit. HOLY SHIT. that is 1 hell of a kick ass scrog.
Ummm that about sums it up.
My Grow ( In case anyone cares)
wow! awesome plants man! :rastasmoke:
My Grow ( In case anyone cares)
Thats some hearty plants. Nice :thumbsup:
My Grow ( In case anyone cares)
Hi boys and girls..
Since I got several thoughts about Scrog and it seems a novel idea for an outside grow I thought I would detail my reason and method of the grow.
First I started 30 seeds of varied strains and picked those that seemed the fastest, closest nodes and best overall look.
I grew them indoors in a mini green house tray untill I was sure that frosts were over for the spring.
I ended up with 4 plants I chose for the scrog. I planted in a mixture of Miragrow pre ferted potting soil and Pearlite and Vermiculite in a 10/1/1 relation. I dug 20" across holes about 2 foot deep ( 2 of em) and planted the 4 plants that were about 6" tall at time of plant.
My soil is Clay based so to help in drainage as the holes just become big pots around here untill roots drive into the clay so I drove a couple of 3/4" PVC pipes into the bottom of the holes about 3 feet down and covered with broken clay pots bits before filling with my soil mix. I also buried 4 - 1/2 gal plastic milk jugs so that just the caps were above the ground with several small nail holes around the bottoms, 2 in each hole. These allow fert to be added in the jugs and slowly leach into the soil. This also helps keep them getting a drink when I miss a few days.
When the plants grew to about 2 foot tall I drove 6 8 foot pieces of ReBar into the ground around the plants in a rectangle of about 4 foot by 8 foot in size.
I planted 4 plants as I figured 1 or 2 would be males and I wanted 2 fems for the scrog set. I tipped the tips of each limb to force multi branching.
As the plants grew I used wire to GENTLY bend the major branches down and over a period of 2 weeks I had them all pretty flat.
I then cover the whole area with Chicken Wire attached to each of the Rebars around the grow. Due to the Soil Mix I did not add any Nutes as the soil is well nuted for at least 4 months.
As the plants grow they tend to poke their little tips up through the Wire and had to be pushed GENTLY back under the wire so they spread evenly under the wire as they grow. I also kept tipping the faster growing tips to force more branching ( and give me a sample of the smoke along the way) .
In this case I did find 2 males of the 4 and offed them as soon as they showed ( made Butane extraction hash with them) which left 2 fems.
Along the way one of the fems developed a Black Tip problem that to this day I have no idea what it was but nothing I tried fixed it so I off the girl and Burned her to kill of the What Ever It Was.
SO now I have 1 fem and she covers a 4 foot by 4 foot square with hundreds of buds poking out. I have continued to tip any that are growing faster than then rest of the tips to keep them fairly level across the flat.
After 4 months I fert with Miracle Grow All Purpose nutes until the start to show bud then I switch to Miracle Grow Bloom Builder and used Half the concentration as recommended on the box and fert one a week with clean water every other day between nutes. And the photos show who its looks at the moment.
I recommend this method for all you folks that are concerned about tall plants in your back yard drawing attention and getting damaged in storms as they will stay low and not look anything like a Xmas tree plant that causes lots of looks and because the wire intertwines with the plant they can stand up to gale force winds, rain and all kind of stuff that would break down unsupported plants.
Scrog works very well outdoors and you end up with a flat square with just the Buds covering the whole area where under the wire all the leaves drop off as above the wire the Buds block almost all the sun from getting below the wire.
Not sure which will produce the most finished bud but I grew two other plants , one Sativa and one Indica ( at least that how they look) so I could compare quantity after finish and will pass that along then. If quantities are close I intend to do All scrog next grow as from my view almost no one that has looked at it can tell its pot. They all think its a Veggy growing in my garden of beans,tomatoes and melons.. until they get close enough to id the individual leaves..
At this moment the Scrog is 4X4 foot and the most buds are about 5 to 8 inches across the grid if wire. And I estimate 2 to 3 Hundred individual buds in the from 1 to 8 inches tall above the wire..
My Grow ( In case anyone cares)
I myself am of the keep it simple stupid school. I only wish I could grow outdoors like you. Beautiful work. I'm going to use some of your techniques. Thanks for the post.
My Grow ( In case anyone cares)
Quote:
Originally Posted by SMOKIN A WHILE
I myself am of the keep it simple stupid school. I only wish I could grow outdoors like you. Beautiful work. I'm going to use some of your techniques. Thanks for the post.
Kewl.. but I want royalties... :thumbsup: