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...there's only ONE thing MY hose has be deficient of lately;)
Ya know, book learning is great and all, but then there's the real world.......Quote:
Originally Posted by Delta9Haze420
I "knew" about gravitropism when I planted my first batch of seeds in Jiffy Pellets, so I didn't worry too much which way the seed went in. I just pushed it down and and covered them up and waited for them to sprout.
Apparently, my little darlings skipped class the day that Mom Nature taught them the difference between up and down. Out of the five seeds I planted THREE of them grew completely upside down. The tap root shot straight up out of the soil, completely exposed to the air while the top of the plant coiled helplessly against the soil just under the seed. When the first root showed up I didn't worry about it, since I figured it would turn over on it's own as soon as it hit the air. When the other two poked through, and the first one stretched to 2.5 inches in length I realized I had a problem, so I a manually opened the pellets and replanted each of the seedlings.
So much for gravitropism lol.
I use the 'germ jar' method. I've always had better success letting the tap go longer before planting. About 3/4" seems to work best for me. I've never broken one yet!
Here's a pic I just took of some Kali Mist and Pez seeds that I popped yesterday. They're going in the dirt right now.
not just a matter of 'breaking' the taproot, the taproot is VERY sensitive to light, best to get it into the soil ASAP ... since the seed has a genetically predetermined amount of rooting 'energy', it's best to have that energy directed at it's surrounding soil ... and, with newbie growers, you have to be specific, or they will grab the ball and run with it ... like "hmmm, if it's OK to have 1/4" of taproot showing, maybe 6" will be better!" ... :wtf:
You're right. Never wait for more than an inch.:thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by the image reaper
right now, I'm like "hmmmm, if that first bowl felt so good, perhaps I should have another" ... :S5:
Oh dear Jah - I only wanted to know why so many people thought it would hurt the plant if it wasnt planted tap down. I don't care about how much experience I have and just delete that if it's such a big deal. My point is - gravitropism is a scientific known. I am a scientist, that means unless proven wrong (in a scientific way), I believe what science has proven. Science has proven gravitropism. Science has proven the positive values of the herb. etc etc... Without science, the herb would never stand a chance of being legalized. I feel bad for your plants, help needed, but there is a logical reason as to why that happened, and it isn't that gravitropism doesn't exist. It means one of the other natural reactions plants have overtook gravitropism. Plus, it takes a little room for gravitropism to allow the root to turn down. Pellets aren't that big, and were probably too small to allow the root to fully turn down... Anyway nevermind, I am not looking for a flame war or a fight, everyone is so on edge all the time around here! You'd think a bunch of stoners would be more relaxed lol...
Thanks for the siggy stinky, I owe you one! :)
D9 - No one is flaming you; just tossing around ideas and experiences - very typical for this forum, actually.Quote:
Originally Posted by Delta9Haze420
Relax and enjoy the ride. :thumbsup:
PC :smokin:
D9- I did say "that I apologized in advance if I was wrong." And if I was, I apologize. It just seemed like you were off on a tangent. Of course we are usually really laid back here, that is why I was curious to your post. Sometimes it is hard to determine tone and ones intentions in text. I am not at all suggesting that I couldn't have been way off.
I am a scientist as well and obviously wouldn't disagree with you on the positive and medicinal use of cannabis.
It just seemed to me when I read your posts on this thread that you seemed you had a lot to say about how most people on here that are saying "make sure to place the tap root down" were wrong and you were ready to back up scientifically there was no purpose to that. It seemed to bug you. example: "OK for awhile now I have seen time and again people say "PUT THE TAP ROOT DOWN!!!!" when advising people on how to put a germinated seed to soil. I am curious why so many people seem to think this is such a big issue?
I studied botony heavily as an undergraduate, and during a lab one day I specifically remember the PhD remarking that it makes no difference which way the tap root faces; it will grow down even if initially facing up (there was a lecture about gravitropism). The shoot will likewise grow upward even if "upside down." This is due to a process called gravitropism. Plants can feel gravity, and they know which way is up. Remember, with seeds that grow wild, not all of them were "put in right side up" - they just grew where they fell.
So why do so many people get hung up on which way seeds go in soil? If anyone doesn't believe me, check this out:
Gravitropism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Or better yet, get a botony textbook and read it for yourself if you don't trust Wiki.
I just thought it was a huge tangent about something that doesn't really matter and you kept saying things like "if you don't believe me then... and better yet check here if you still don't believe etc..... I was just pointing out that it seemed a bit aggressive over a topic that I doubt too many people would be apprehensive to believe you. I guess I was just saying, put in your opinion and let others do it how they do it without being so aggressive by (for lack of a better word) shoving it down their/our throats. That's all.
Seriously, I was not trying to pick a fight by any means and I hope we are all cool. I/we are not on edge, I just found your post a bit aggressive, and I commented on it.
take care,
Elway
thanks PC I am glad that someone understood me:thumbsup: