My plants are starting to look worse,what's going on?These plants look so life-less and dull
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My plants are starting to look worse,what's going on?These plants look so life-less and dull
I just took my morning measurements,my ph is 5.5 my tds is at 290,which means they are eating right?2 days ago I added 150ppm of cal-mag and 150 ppm of veg food,which brought me to a total of 310 ppm,am I underfeeding or over feeding?This is so frustrating because the other times I grew "dro",I knew less but the plants were happy,theses plants seems extremely sad in optimal conditions.:wtf:
http://boards.cannabis.com/hydroponi...ml#post1610524 my grow is of 2 differnt ages about 3 weeks apart and there all doing great infact the younger ones are just about as big as the older ones so i know it worksQuote:
Originally Posted by Weedhound
i think with there age they don't need much, but i had mine at around 400 at 3 weeks i kept them at 300 till 3 weeks but if u add to much to soon u will burn then and it takes awhile for them to bounce back my tap/well water is 25 ppmi think the nutes say 1/4 tsp per gal is that what u used??well really iv'e read abunch of diffrent stuff on here from people like stinky, and abunch of others, and they all say diffrent stuff, but all the same if thats understandable lol. sum say to much sum say not enough, and most of what iv'e read is'nt exact.Quote:
Originally Posted by guyfromchi2004
as iv'e read everywhere to start seedlings either the papertowel or vial with water method, and to keep in a dark place. i started all my seeds in peatmoss plugs in a dome under 2 big cfls and got 100% sprouts in 3 to4 days. so it's not an exact science more of know the basics and trial&error comes into play.although iv'e also read that u don't give nutes only ph'd water for the first week or till they have a good root system showing. i started all mine under the dome and with 1/4 nutes.not to say iv'e never messed up about 2 weeks ago i changed my nutes, but not all the way i really topped the res's off and i forgot about the nutes and ph i had in there and i added the reg 15ml of ph down to 1 res, and within 3 or 4 mins my plants on that res all wilted up, so i checked the res and saw the ph was 2.8 so i rushed and brought it back up to 5.8, and they recovered but just lil stuff like that makes u remember for next time what to and not to do.
some say u have to have 100% dark some say 87% im at about 95%, as sum real dim light is leaking out of the air vent but still dark to where i can't see my hand or anything but looks more like and moon overcast or something. and there budding up real nice so it's a constant learning exp!!!! but iv'e noticed it makes me feel like the first time i started prospecting for gold, and found my first gold nugget, u get hooked and it becomes apart of ur life. as it's a feeling u get that u just know it will be with u the rest of ur life, and u won't get tired of it. it's hard to explain but they say in geology, prospecting,once u get bit by the gold bug ur hooked for life. i take that as a good meaning in life too as once u find that thing u love, u love it for life and i have been bit by the green bug now so now i have 2 loves lol.
did u cut the bottem leafs off and if so why?? oh my bad those are clones aren't they?lolQuote:
Originally Posted by guyfromchi2004
This IS frustrating. when you knew less what did you do that worked? You've got everything exactly the way you should as far as your nutes, ph, and water. How often are you checking your ph btw?
Can you tell me what your room temps and room humidity is? The last thing I can think of is how warm is the water your plants are in?
If you put in at 310 and its now 290 then yes, they are eating. How often are you having to add water? And when you do are you adding 300ppm water or plain water?
Next set of questions....what kind of lighting and how close is it to your plants?
There is something here that is missing.....but I can't figure out what it is. Any info you have helps....even if you think it's not useful.
I'm not anything close to an expert...I'm on my first hydro grow, but I'll still throw in my 2 cents lol.
First, if I understand correctly, you've got 9 plants in a 3 gallon bubbler? I've got 6 plants in a 13 gallon DWC system and I've had people tell my that my res is too small for that many plants. Maybe they're too crowded in there? Not sure on this tho. It's just a thought.
Second, if these are in full veg, 300ppm is probably too low. I've got mine running at 600ppm using the Lucas Formula and the plants are loving it. Also, check your res temps. Even if your pH is right, if the res temps are too hot, the plants can't eat. Same with room temps.
Last you've definitely got a nute imbalance somewhere in there. I'm not good enough to tell you exactly what, but if you post in the sick plant forum, there's a guy named Ganja Guerrilla who's really good at figuring out what nutes you're missing, just by looking at your pics.
P.S. The Lucas Formula is a really simply nute program designed specifically for weed. I switched to it in my second week of growth and I'm really glad I did so.
Ok when I didn't know better,I used tap water (350ppm)coming out of the tap,I always had my 2 meters (ph and tds)5.0 to 6.0,used the same food,One thing I noticed(with this grow)is when I checked the ph in the bucket,it fluctuated badly.When I took a sample of the res water that's when I got an accurate reading.Now it's different since I have switched to ro water with the cal-mag.Now I am able to take accurate readings straight from the res.My 400 watt MH is about 10 in away from the top of the tallest plant.I know that you said that the different ages concerned you but a couple of the "newest" plants are bigger than the "old" ones.The mix that I have going on now was changed 2 days ago because I didn't know about cal-mag,So I decided to start over fresh.So I haven't added any water yet,When I decide to add water it will be ph'ed ro water without cal-mag.My room that I use does not have fresh air,So I keep the door opened a lot.It's about 85 to 90 degrees in here with the door closed for 10 hrs.3 fans blowing at all times.The only difference between this grow and the last one is (1) The Water (2)the different age of the plants.2 plants are about 3 weeks older than their 7 sisters but you couldn't tell by looking at a couple of them.I will post a pic with the plants numbered and maybe that'll help us out more.Thank God for the internet.And thank you guys for taking the time to help me figure out this problem
If your room temps are 85-90 then the water must be pretty warm too and I think that may be your problem. Plants do not grow very well in temps over 80 degrees (slows down photosynthesis greatly) and if the water is too warm for your roots they won't do well either.
I thought about telling you to increase nutes but I personally would not.....I don't think that's your problem at all. When in doubt....always use less nutes which may not be great but won't kill them as opposed to too many nutes which can kill them pretty quick. They just don't look like a nute def.....I swear it looks like a ph lockout so maybe help needed has a good point going there about water temps and ph.
10 inches is usually ok for your light but just because you have sick plants you might pull it back from them a foot just to reduce stress and because your room is pretty hot itself.
I just checked the ph and the tds we are sitting at 280 and 5.5