What is your version of THE TRUTH?

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Originally Posted by delusionsofNORMALity

unable to grasp the concept of the infinite, we feebly grasp at what little we know and attempt to extrapolate a grand design for the universe. seeking structure, we construct laws by which we believe the universe is constrained and then see those laws shattered as we manage to peer a little farther into eternity. so then we build another set of rules based on the tiny bit more we have learned and so on and so on.....

we humans are great rule makers and we seem to try and find patterns in everything, but in an infinite universe those patterns are so insignificant. we try to impose the idea of our superiority on the vast canvas of reality by imagining ourselves to be immortal in some twisted way. whether through magic or pseudo-science we attempt to refute the reality that we will one day cease to exist.


so here are my assembled great truths:

1. the human soul is a myth. it isn't a magical entity or a cohesive bundle of energy which survives our material demise. we exist for a short time and then we disappear and the minimal amount of energy created by or used in our passing merely goes on to be used in some unrelated activity somewhere else in the universe. our immortality exists only within those who we have touched in our brief span of years.

2. there is no great purpose for humanity's existence. we are merely another happenstance among an infinite number of possibilities and our creation is nothing more than random chance. insignificant and impotent, we are just taking up a bit of space for a while in this backwater of reality.

3. there is no grand design to the universe. chaos reigns supreme and the tiny patterns which we see as immutable laws are merely temporary eddies in the vast maelstrom of existence. there is no benevolent overseer aligning the cosmos into some ultimate harmonic convergence, no shadowy master of ceremonies with a master plan.



there you go. now be fruitful and multiply, eat drink and be merry, do unto others, brush after every meal and don't forget to floss.

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Interesting perspective. I dont think there is any grand design to the universe either, and I certainly dont believe in any benevolent overseeing entity, but I do believe there is a bit more to it than you seem to. Perhaps I am wrong though.

I do feel we have a purpose, at least I personally have a purpose. My purpose is to gain as much enlightenment as I can before I die, and to help my species advance closer towards unity and the next evolutionary step. Preservation of self and species. Thats our purpose if you ask me.

I believe that we have no purpose...we are here, we do stuff, then we die..

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Originally Posted by Oh F Yeah

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i'm right there witcha, brother.:thumbsup:



I WILL be back;)

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Originally Posted by geonagual

I believe that we have no purpose...we are here, we do stuff, then we die..

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but before I read all this and add....he's right. just, we do have a purpose.....to make babies.:)that's it

I disagree that 'chaos reigns supreme' in the Universe, from the structure of galaxies to the structure of atoms things operate on predictable 'laws' (some of which we have yet to recognize).

What may appear chaotic is actually an intricate dance represented by the four great forces and their respective 'laws', and within these laws the Universe operates in an additive feedback loop where greater and greater levels of organization are achieved (part of which is us, be it by God, evolution, or both).

Even the death of the stars is but a step in this great organization, the supernovae spewing the heavy metals out so rocky planets like ours can exist.

^^Exactly... chaos does not reign supreme, that is an absurdity. Entropy is balanced by the positive forces in the universe. It is quite the delicate balance.

And to SpokenWord... you said our purpose is to make babies?? That would fall under preservation of self and species, would it not???

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Originally Posted by GraziLovesMary

And to SpokenWord... you said our purpose is to make babies?? That would fall under preservation of self and species, would it not???

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Yes. I also meant teaching what you've learned to your kid. And in turn, the child does the same with it's seed. etc.

but listen, I also like to think about "the purpose" in life. It makes mine that much better. But honestly.....when you die, you're alone. Not your parents, your family. Just you. So everything you've learned...goes down the drain, to be funny about it.
It's true. If you think you've found your reason for life, GREAT. Then that's it. You have found what you need to be happy.

I'll tell you the purpose of my life before I die. Until then, the only thing I can do is make it an interesting and "happy" one.
[edit]and teach my offspring everything I learned.:hippy:

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Originally Posted by Spoken Word

Yes. I also meant teaching what you've learned to your kid. And in turn, the child does the same with it's seed. etc.

but listen, I also like to think about "the purpose" in life. It makes mine that much better. But honestly.....when you die, you're alone. Not your parents, your family. Just you. So everything you've learned...goes down the drain, to be funny about it.
It's true. If you think you've found your reason for life, GREAT. Then that's it. You have found what you need to be happy.

I'll tell you the purpose of my life before I die. Until then, the only thing I can do is make it an interesting and "happy" one.
[edit]and teach my offspring everything I learned.:hippy:

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Wow, you seem so sure of yourself. I wish I was so enlightened I could verbalize a statement as finite as that without any empirical data to back it up...

There is ONE (unknown) truth, which would explain the way energy flows in and throughout our world and how we interpret it.

BUT, if you would like to find the TRUTH about any OBJECT or CONCEPT in this world, it is unattainable. There are infinite truths in this thing we call an earthly body. The secret is that everyone created their own reality, every concept they hold TRUE within their life is just as much TRUE as someone else's concept of the SAME thing. It seems rather appropriate actually, if our creator can manifest a "human population" whose bodies are completely unique, then he can input the program in our reality to create a self inflicting reality that is completely individualized as well.

Heres a video to help intake the idea that you created your own reality.
YouTube - The Secret: You Created Your Reality