From Fetus to Baby

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Originally Posted by Conservatoker

You guys obviosly don't have any kids. Otherwise you would see this much differently. Try telling me that "it's not a baby" as I am watching video ultrasound of my daughter sucking her thumb @ four months after conception.

Until you have kids and unless you have the heart to really embrace what that miracle of life is about, you can not understand how wrong any abortion is.

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Howdy Conservatoker,

Once again,I agree with what you're saying-until one has become a parent..they will never be able to understand this issue.

Life is a miracle-not an 'event' !!

My daughter,is a miracle and a joyous wonder,a true blessing from God..I love her with every fibre of my being,and as a parent,I cannot but help,to rally to the cause of all children,be they yet unborn..or not. I view abortion as murder,and the radical gay agenda targetting our children,is akin to wolves stalking lambs..I will fight against both..as a father,I could do no less.

Have a good one...Torog

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Originally Posted by Conservatoker

You guys obviosly don't have any kids. Otherwise you would see this much differently. Try telling me that "it's not a baby" as I am watching video ultrasound of my daughter sucking her thumb @ four months after conception.

Until you have kids and unless you have the heart to really embrace what that miracle of life is about, you can not understand how wrong any abortion is.

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Feel free to adopt on the hundreds of thousands of unwanted retarded mutant freaks who right now are slobbering in group homes, waiting to come live with you and shit on your floor.
You just want to force your religion on me

And BTW i have 2 kids, that has nothing to do with it. Both would have been a fetus in a dumpster behind the hospital if the tests showed anything fucked up

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Originally Posted by juggalo420

first of all life isnt a miracle its biology. and while an ultrasound of your daughter is proof enough for you, it is not for other people. They view the test of life is whether or not the fetus can live indepedantly from the mother.

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first of all life isnt a miracle ....are you fucking kidding me,its a miracle any life left on earth at all.
its biology....only thing ya said made any sense

and while an ultrasound of your daughter is proof enough for you, it is not for other people. They(you mean you)
view the test of life is whether or not the fetus can live indepedantly from the mother
let me ask you this
who wiped your ass and fed you and did everything for you right up till probly now it sounds to me like,ypur parents who i pity right now at a few of you folks parents had kids that just dont have any sense of humane feeling.
the human being is the most fragile thing in some ways ,its the most depending upon its parents species on earth,we are helpless untill we get to some age that varies in all,most animals drop a kid and few months in off on its own,a baby cant survive but hours without a mother so that silly shit about it being so old dont matter
if that was the case you could abort 3 yr olds,and not be cold blooded killers

some kids always need mommy to tell them when to wipe their noses,
even when so called grown up.(pionts at crackhead)

a baby is a human life the very instant that the egg is fertilized,
a life begins to grow from that lil event and no other.
conception,is a funny word
fetus is a label some folks us to call a lil person still stuck inside a freaky stage mankind must go thru to be mankind
yaw people who think its ok to kill a baby make me want to believe in heaven and hell so they be a warm ass place waiting for ya when your lil life ends,
life is indeed a FUCKING miracle.

For all you ignorant chuckleheads out there, just a little fact. BCP's are abortifacients. THEY CAUSE ABORTIONS. Will we make these people murderers also? Gotta love fascists with their flowery BS fascists approaches that do nothing but impose ignorance on others.

Keep fascism out of our lives. Know your fascists.

Ed

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5 Women gang rape a criminal and torture him. Only 2 are actually charged. Prison terms given for rape, torture, attempted murder and kidnapping? 4 months. I repeat. 4 MONTHS. Where is Equality? "You can get anything you want at Alice's Restaurant" of judicial gendercide. After all, according to the DA. "No one was hurt". Mary Franks and "The Cucumber Incident".

5 years of collecting child support and no one even bothered to see if the child was real. Trevino.

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Miracle? Please. You fill a girl with sperm and out comes a baby nine months later. That is no miracle, thats what happens when you have unprotected sex. I suppose shitting is a miracle, too. Wait, no its actually a very common thing that happens after you eat.

NO, ITS A MIRACLE...you wouldn't know unless you've seen my shit, IT LOOKS JUST LIKE JESUS IM TELLING YOU.

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5 Women gang rape a criminal and torture him. Only 2 are actually charged. Prison terms given for rape, torture, attempted murder and kidnapping? 4 months. I repeat. 4 MONTHS.

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That really has nothing to do with babies or fetuses, its likely because hundreds of thousands of drug law offenders need to serve their mandatory minimum sentances and they ran out of room.

Ed Ward, what do you mean birth control pills cause abortions? For your information, I got pregnant with my oldest child while on birth control pills! How would that have been possible?

Do you conservatives even know what teenage girls do when they miss their periods and can't get an abortion? They punch themselves in the fucking uterus until they start to bleed. Many also smoke cigarettes, drink and do drugs which both physically and mentally damages the developing FETUS so if it were to be born it would be one fucked up little child. In many cases the father will leave or the parents just don't have enough money to support it so the child grows up in poverty and neglect. Why should my tax dollars go to waste feeding and caring for these births that could have been prevented? Why let these kids grow up in hell? Why don't you fucking ask some of these illegimate children born to single mothers how happy they are to be alive?

Keep abortion safe and legal. I am a male and I recognize the womans right to do what she wants to her body...
Let us hear from a female against abortion, I wonder how many are out there.

Until a man gets pregnant he should keep his mouth shut about whether a woman has the right to an abortion. It a right that women have that men cannot control (yet!) and I think that fact is the truth that hurts a lot of men the most. "It's half mine!" he'll shout. Yeah, well until a man pees on a stick and it turns blue, his half doesn't matter.

w0w im totally shock at the ignorance of sum of u people. U obviously never have had a child. From the day I found out I was having a baby i started to plan for its life and future as if it was already here because in my eyes it was. I felt the life growin inside of me. And it was the greatest Miracle I have ever exsperaniced in my life and those u who dont consider it as such wait til u hear ur own childs heart beat for the first time at about 10 wks or see its cute lil image on the ultra sound and the doc tellin u if its a baby boy or gurl at about 20 wks or the day that u hold ur miracle of life in ur arms for the first time and look down at a peice of urself. Trust me ur feelin will change u wont even care that u just went thru what seemed like 8930243728973 hours of hard labor or the fact that ur starving to death and sleep deprived all u care about is that lil precious baby that ur holdin in ur arms and for that split second the whole world seems to stop and the only thing that matters to u is that baby and its well being. All the planin and waiting u had done for the last night months in antisapation for this lil human life to finally be in ur arms is well worth every lil thing u had to do. I belive personally that a baby is a baby from day one. I have exsperianced my miracle I hope u all do ur to sumday and open ur eyes to things ur not seein. These lil babys cant prtect themselves and its our jobs as their parents to protect them in and outta womb. I have delievered most of my childern way before there due dates but just because i wasnt 9 months pregnant when they were born dont make them anyless of a baby when i was holding there lil bodies in my arms. One on my sons was born in my 26th week of pregnancy unfortunaly he didnt survive but to me he was already real just because i didnt get to exsperiace his brife exsistance on this earth didnt change the way i felt when he was pronounced dead,because for the last few months i had felt his life in side me i felt him move i seen his face on then new 3D ultra sounds i heard his lil heart beatin a mile a min. I held on to every precious moment i had with my baby boy and i consider all of that a miracle. My son ment just as much to me as my other childern and his death affected me just as if it would have been my 2 year old that had died there all lil miracles and i have exsperianced it first hand so dont u guys sit up here and try to tell me its anything other. I hope this ignorance on the unborn "babies" in this world will sumday change although ignorace as been around since the creation of man im sure it wont go anywhere now:confused:.