yes evolution is a fact, but i was talking about that fact that we evolved out of billions of years of matter. While there is lots of evidence to support that, it still isn't a proven theory.
And yes, gravity is a theory, not a law.
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yes evolution is a fact, but i was talking about that fact that we evolved out of billions of years of matter. While there is lots of evidence to support that, it still isn't a proven theory.
And yes, gravity is a theory, not a law.
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Originally Posted by Tanarus
Only because we don't know what the hell it is yet. It is not compatible with Quantum Physics, but we know that is it there. Evolution is a fact, hell even the Catholic Church has acknowledged it's truth. The amount of evidence for it is overwhelming, there isn't a single field of science out there that is not compatible with evolution and how it works.
Fact: Knowledge or information based on real occurrences...
We are basing evolution on the real occurrences we have documented, fossils, DNA evidence they all show this phenomenon we call evolution has and is occurring. Therefore, based on the definition of the word, evolution is a fact. Although we can never know for sure if thats the real definition of fact... god might have some super secret definition for it... probably along the lines of "Fact: totally made up bullshit that gets the population to act in accordance with a completely outdated and fucked up set of ethics and morals"
So why is intelligent design taught right alongside creationism in American schools?America should get with the rest of the world and stop believing in fairy tales from the bible.Like Noah collected all the animals in the world and put on a huge ark come on do u know how ridiculaus that is.Or like Jesus was born by immaculate conception good god Mary and Joseph were married didnt they have sex?
^^^^Thats much more truth than anybody could even believe. God's wisdom seems folly to the human mind, as human wisdom is folly to God.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thepossumdance
Anyway, i think evolution is the way God used to create a lot of species without worrying to create one by one, by hand. He just set up the selection natural laws, the possibility of mutations, and let the things happen by itselves.
PS. 500th post!:rastabanna:
First off, evolution is NOT a belief/myth/theory. Evolution itself is fact. Evolution does occur. It can be observed in some cases. Mostly, it takes too long to manifest itself (longer than our lifetimes that is). The part that is a theory, is natural selection. Natural selection is the predominant (I'm not actually aware of another explanation) mechanism explaining evolution. Natural selection is not perfect, but it's the best explanation that they've figured so far.
I think it's kind've appalling that people even entertain the thought of 'teaching' intelligent design in schools. There is absolutely not a single shred of evidence or anything supporting that theory. Because that's exactly what it is, a theory. Just because something doesn't jive well with your beliefs doesn't mean you should ignore it. That is ignorance. You can't just decide you think that the sky isn't blue because it doesn't follow your beliefs. And you definately shouldn't try and force ingnorance on anyone else.
Didn't mean to piss anyone off - but seriously you need to study evolution more to understand it fully.
For those who think its unproven - especially Macroevolution (the bit creationists think there is no proof of LOL) I'm sorry to burst your bubble but there is plenty of evidence for Macroevolution and Microevolution.
Ever wonder why you still have the beginnings of a tail?
Looked at a whale skeleton recently?
Looked at Recombinant DNA viruses?
You know - the ones that leave behind part of their genome INSIDE an organisms DNA - so called endogenous retroviruses? Funny how we have the same HERV-K insertions on exactly the same Chromosomal locations as other primates.
Retroviral DNA is then passed down a germ-line from generation to generation - about 1% of your DNA is old viruses (no shit!) and you share the same Retroviral DNA as other primate ancestors. Dogs for example don't posses these retroviral insertions, but that's fine - we aren't descended from dogs.
Do I need to go on? The case against Creationism is overwhelming to point of embarrasment - educate yourself and then decide - exactly what the church doesn't want you to do.
I can get on a mission about creationists parading their idea as a "theory" and trying to get it into the cirriculum as Science - its frightening to me, as Religious dogma has no place in science imho.
Man, evolution is real, and some of you guys are just gonna have to deal with that if you don't wanna live the rest of your lives blinded. Evolution is straight forward and makes absolutely perfect sense if you bother to learn the details. If the church had said that 1+1=3 for the last couple thousand years, there would be people here arguing that 1+1=2 is only a theory and that we can't be sure if its really correct.
People can beleive what they want. If you wanna beleive that God set up evolution because he was too lazy to create all of the organisms he wanted, then you're entitled to your opinion (which I think is follish btw. How many times are you guys gonna change your story?). But evolution is undeniable. Lets be real here..
the theory of evolution is based on the interpretation of the remains of real occurrences.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thepossumdance
science is of no use if we refuse to obey its simplest laws. though evolution is the most logical and direct interpretation of the evidence, there are other possibilities that cannot be directly disproved. since there seems to be no way to come to a conclusion through direct experience, it may always be nothing more than a theory.
science is the art of questioning everything and if we are willing to blindly believe any one set of interpretations then we do science a disservice by turning it into just another sorrowfully inadequate religion. scientists are not prophets handing down the holy truth from on high. they are merely fallible men, who should be willing to question even their own conclusions and the rest of us should be just as willing to keep an open mind to all of the possibilities, tossing out only those we find to be wholly inadequate.
fact is not determined by consensus. if it were then we would probably be living on a flat earth sitting on the back of a giant turtle, while fiery chariots raced through the heavens and dragons and unicorns capered in the mist. how cool would that be?
What about the evolutionary processes that have been directly observed? The viruses and bacteria that evolve so rapidly that we can pretty much see it happening before our eyes? What about instances of observed speciation? Or all the plants and animals that we've evolved through selective breeding? How 'direct' of an experience do you need, exactly?Quote:
Originally Posted by delusionsofNORMALity