question about evolution

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Originally Posted by meloncoly

millions of years in different places? apes are evolved, just not as much as us.

there are millions of different species, who says all primates have to be the same?

fish - sharks, why aren't all fish sharks?

I find it asburd a human being can teach creationism through stories alone from uneducated ancestors with the need to believe in a higher power.

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ownnnnnned lol hah ooo im so high

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Originally Posted by hazetwostep

i have always been taught a "creation" perspective on the origin of the universe and understand that theory quite well. I am very curious to learn about the evolutionary viewpoint. i certainly do not disagree with the principle of natural selection, but the aspect that assumes we are descendents apes brings some confusion. now for my question...

if apes evolved to eventually become humans as we know them today, why did only some of us evolve and some stay as apes? why did all in between perish, leaving only the beginning and end "products" (apes and human) with no in between?

thanks to anyone who can shed light with an educated, intelligent response!

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There are several different reasons organisms evolve. In the case with humans and apes, humans didn't evolve directly from apes. Humans and Apes evolved from a common ancestor. The reason we turned out different than apes can be explained by different modes of speciation (most likely allpatric speciation)

It's a complicated process to track the evolution of species, but we have mapped out a lot of evolution, and many of the common arguments against evolution have been disproven. Evolution is a "theory", but it's regarded as fact by every biologists that I've encountered.

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Originally Posted by meloncoly

I find it asburd a human being can teach creationism through stories alone from uneducated ancestors with the need to believe in a higher power.

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i can understand you perplexity of religious people and there simplicity of certain matters. remember not all people believing in a higher power simply accept stories of creation. that is a huge generalization, especially considering the majority of Christians believe creation stories are not actually events, but stories with important morals.

i do think it is interesting that human kind cannot get away from a "feeling" or "belief" that there is some higher power... just interesting

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Originally Posted by hazetwostep

i can understand you perplexity of religious people and there simplicity of certain matters. remember not all people believing in a higher power simply accept stories of creation. that is a huge generalization, especially considering the majority of Christians believe creation stories are not actually events, but stories with important morals.

i do think it is interesting that human kind cannot get away from a "feeling" or "belief" that there is some higher power... just interesting

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It's human nature. When man cannot find a natural answer, he creates a supernatural one.

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Originally Posted by GotWake88

It's human nature. When man cannot find a natural answer, he creates a supernatural one.

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Well, if the "laws of nature" don't describe an observable event, does that mean that its necessarily a supernatual one?
That could mean rising from the dead after three days... or, something like a blackhole or heisenburg's uncertainty principle.

I don't think human beings necessarily need to fall to supernatural answers, unless its simply defined as outside of our understanding of nature.

What's human about it, is that we assume an answer might exist.

rickytikki... that article is amazing! wow...

We didn't evolve from apes, we and apes share a common ancestor.

This type of evolution is just a theory. You're rejecting that God created man in his own image.
Everything was created for man, including the Earth. Man did not evolve from beast. What is your proof?

It's funny how everything just landed on the earth perfectly. The sun shines, the white clouds drop dew on the green grass which the animals eat and drink. Man eats out of the ground he was created. Where else outside the Earth is this happening? A christian is often accused of lacking logic. Where is the logic in believing that there is life outside Earth? Can you see it anywhere else?

"And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof."

This includes the Monkeys and Apes. Monkeys did not become men. Since it didn't happen, I'm sure there is no scientific proof of it.

In the kingdom of God, even the animal kingdom will be at peace. They will play together.
We're coming back. Re-incarnation. Better than before. Hope in the afterlife. :hippy:

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Originally Posted by Pass That Shit

This type of evolution is just a theory. You're rejecting that God created man in his own image.
Everything was created for man, including the Earth. Man did not evolve from beast. What is your proof?

It's funny how everything just landed on the earth perfectly. The sun shines, the white clouds drop dew on the green grass which the animals eat and drink. Man eats out of the ground he was created. Where else outside the Earth is this happening? A christian is often accused of lacking logic. Where is the logic in believing that there is life outside Earth? Can you see it anywhere else?

"And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof."

This includes the Monkeys and Apes. Monkeys did not become men. Since it didn't happen, I'm sure there is no scientific proof of it.

In the kingdom of God, even the animal kingdom will be at peace. They will play together.
We're coming back. Re-incarnation. Better than before. Hope in the afterlife. :hippy:

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Not to condescend, but, can't you read? Of course monkeys didn't become humans. Both humans and monkeys decended from the mighty sasquatch. Beast-man. Were-monkey. Whatever.

Our planet compares to the rest of the universe like a grain of sand to our galaxy, only less so. You don't seem to appreciate the scope. If the entire meaning of our universe is to be found here on earth, then the grand story is most definately a comedy.

It's true, we share the common ancestor of the homonid. We didn't evolve directly from the apes we see today.

I think the concept is simple: it's survival of the fittest. The organisms that fit their environment the best or most efficiently, go on to create the most offspring, which go on to create more offspring with those same features. These minute changes lead to large change over time, which accounts for the great variety of species specialized to their environment.