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thanks for the info mark bryan. i looked some of it over and it is interesting stuff. the only thing for me is that i believe the bible is correct in spiritual principle but not facts.. too many contradictions in facts to believe "IT IS GOD'S WORD"... i do believe that "IT CONTAINS GOD'S WORD"... do you follow the difference?
what about you? do you believe it IS God's word or does it CONTAIN God's word?
I'll only say this. When you see where it says submit to the powers that be,then read where Jesus broke the Jewish laws,or Daniel disobeyed the laws not to pray,then contradictions SEEM to appear. If it's like a traffic law or stealin'or drunk drivin',then these laws are beneficial,but if it's laws bannin' religious freedom or hemp prohibition,then the laws are tyrannical! I like to interpret the prophecies in the Bible,which strengthens MY belief,for example if you read Isaiah;31:5,Matthew;34:32-36 and Luke;21:24 you read about the 6-Day War,June5-10,1967! Or Isaiah;49:20 and Genesis;48:16-19 the American Revolution,or the rise of America(Manasseh)and the British Commonwealth of Nations(Ephraim)in Genesis;49:22-26 and Deuteronomy;33:13-17! Good stuff if you understand and can interpret prophecy correctly!Quote:
Originally Posted by hazetwostep
i hear ya.. the tough thing is that one cannot be sure that he/she is interpretting correctly, hence hundreds of denominations from disagreement on interpretation. ya know?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark Bryan
i do commend you for looking and trying to figure things out for yourself though considering most people just blindly follow their agents of religious socialization (priest, pastor guru, etc.).
if people think that theyre working for a higher purpose, then theyre happy.
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Originally Posted by RyanTheCaveman
Maybe nothing does happen after we die, but that should make us each try to do the best we can with our lives in the knoledge that the things we do will have created a positive impact in the world after were gone and as a result the world will be a better place..................ahh.
pills.
To some extent we're only discussing one section of the question here, that of why people should be interested in whether they're a part of a divine plan or not. But we explore for other reasons too. Of more interest to many than 'why am I here' is 'what is here?' and 'what is over there? The human drive to search for our origins doesn't necessarily involve metaphysical concepts, we can simply want to know.
To me, reality doesn't need a divine plan for it to have meaning, I make my own meaning; and if I were God, the purpose of life would certainly be for every creature to experience the wonder of reality, exploring it and drinking it in at every possible moment. Could there be anything more important than that? Does there really need to be a 'plan'?
Enjoy reality, be here. Nobody says on their death beds says, "I wish I'd had more blunts", or "slept with more women". Everybody says the same thing. "I wish I'd had more time to just enjoy it. But I chose not to because..."
Hoping that there's a point to existence is good, it supports us and gives us comfort. But we can't rely on it as a truth, without ever considering that there's an equal chance that life is just a random flow of events wth no purpose at all. It makes us live more voraciously, and we appreciate our brief lives more to know that they're transient, and very possibly all any of us will get.
We explore to know, not to give our existence worth.
MelT
I've basically RETURNED to the Bible,since readin' Jack Herer's The Emperor Wears No Clothes. I had NO IDEA cannabis was written in the scriptures,'til I read that book! I have NO REGRETS! I've also found in my studies that the manna in the book of Exodus and Numbers happens to be MAGIC MUSHROOMS! Therefore the ORIGINAL hebrew culture and society was a PSYCHEDELIC ONE! Todays MODERN church originates from PAGAN ROME! That's why so many people HATE the church! Start with the Council of Nicea,then on to emperor Constantine,and you'll see how this church got started! It is referred to in Revelation as the GREAT WHORE!Quote:
Originally Posted by hazetwostep
I'd say you're PARTLY correct. Right now NOTHING has happened! Jesus said: NO man has entered into Heaven,only he who descended FROM heaven. John;13:13 also read 2 Chronicles;21:12-15. Enoch was taken to a safe place (however unsaid) to wait out the flood. I Thessalonians ;4:14-16 tells us what WILL happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by iclotsofpills
because we can.
Meh, we're curious and self-aware; it's one of the things that sets us apart from the animals.
That, and our use of eating utensils. :D
(first person to get that reference gets rep hahahaha)