Guns

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Originally Posted by Torog

Back in the early 70's,we could even bring our guns to school and as long as we didn't take em out of our cars and trucks,it was okay. Many a time,we brought our rifles to school,so that we could go huntin and plinking,after school. Then modern liberalism raised it's ugly face..and suddenly ,guns were to be feared and the students were no longer trusted to be responsible for their guns. It was one of the silliest things we'd ever heard..I reckon that the liberals couldn't understand that we feared the wrath of our parents,if we mis-used a gun,more than what any cop would do.

Have a good one ...

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First off torog, I'm sure it's easy to blame the libs for the fact that guns aren't allowed on school campuses anymore, but face facts. The problem was some of these people decided to start bringing their guns to school and shooting people. They weren't told to do so by the liberals, they just thought it sounded like a good idea.
You're probably right that liberals don't understand fearing your parents. but I don't see why that is relevant. Sounds like a whole 'nother issue for you conservatives to me...

And for you Tadaa, how to control? simple. make gun possession illegal. Sure, cops and military personal can still have their guns, when acting in regards to their duties, but regular citizens can't. All law-abiding persons would obviously turn theirs in then, and so we'd feel fine about "criminals" being busted for firearm possession.

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Originally Posted by Polymirize

First off torog, I'm sure it's easy to blame the libs for the fact that guns aren't allowed on school campuses anymore, but face facts. The problem was some of these people decided to start bringing their guns to school and shooting people. They weren't told to do so by the liberals, they just thought it sounded like a good idea.
You're probably right that liberals don't understand fearing your parents. but I don't see why that is relevant. Sounds like a whole 'nother issue for you conservatives to me...

And for you Tadaa, how to control? simple. make gun possession illegal. Sure, cops and military personal can still have their guns, when acting in regards to their duties, but regular citizens can't. All law-abiding persons would obviously turn theirs in then, and so we'd feel fine about "criminals" being busted for firearm possession.

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get ready to hear the same thing again... "just becasue guns are illegal doesn't mean you're safe" or.. "then should we outlaw cars as well"
seems to be the only thing any of these people know how to say, or maybe it's just because that's the only argument they can put up...

as to torog: i'm going to quote someone....
"the NRA says guns don't kill people, people kill people... but i think the gun helps... you're not going to kill a whole lot of people just saying bam, you'd have to be really dodgy on the heart for that"

^^ hell yeah. Izzard knows how to lay it down. But can you imagine Torog watching one of his acts?

actually that would be hilarious

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Originally Posted by Polymirize

^^ hell yeah. Izzard knows how to lay it down. But can you imagine Torog watching one of his acts?

actually that would be hilarious

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now that would be funny....
in his sexie live special he actally comes out with fake tits... lol....

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Originally Posted by Wesley Pipes

i said guns shouldnt exist, are u condoning the use of guns??? u make me sick, i guess u must support the kind of ppl who massacre innocent kids with guns, if guns didnt exist, gun crime wouldnt exist, accidental deaths by guns wouldnt exist, therefor there would be less death in this world, and when i said guns shouldnt exist, i meant ALL guns that are owned by EVERYONE who uses guns, you can argue that its ppl who kill ppl and yes you'd be right, but its easier to stop a madman who has a knife than it is to stop a madman with a gun, if u cant see that then ur even more of an idiot than i first thought, i have nothin against u personally, but anyone who condones gun violence is as sick as the terrorists who attack innocent civilians.

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If there weren't any bad people in the world there would be no crime, what's your point? Your views are unrealistic and 100% irrelevant in this argument.

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Originally Posted by Polymirize

First off torog, I'm sure it's easy to blame the libs for the fact that guns aren't allowed on school campuses anymore, but face facts. The problem was some of these people decided to start bringing their guns to school and shooting people. They weren't told to do so by the liberals, they just thought it sounded like a good idea.
You're probably right that liberals don't understand fearing your parents. but I don't see why that is relevant. Sounds like a whole 'nother issue for you conservatives to me...

And for you Tadaa, how to control? simple. make gun possession illegal. Sure, cops and military personal can still have their guns, when acting in regards to their duties, but regular citizens can't. All law-abiding persons would obviously turn theirs in then, and so we'd feel fine about "criminals" being busted for firearm possession.

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I'm sure you'd also feel fine about criminals being the only citizens with guns, right? You're a fucking idiot.

1. I'd say probably 75% of law abiding citizens wouldn't turn in their guns, and if the U.S ever tried to ban guns there would be a civil war, but they won't ever try and ban guns so you can get that out of your head right now.

Just know that I am armed to the teeth and loving it, and there isn't a godamn thing you or anybody else can do about it:D

What's the point of baning guns if only the law abiding people turn them in? They aren't committing crimes with them, so gun crime would stay the same. Jesus, are you really that simple minded that you couldn't figure that out on your own?

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Originally Posted by Torog

Howdy Y'all,

Guns don't kill--humans do..it's just that simple.

Criminals don't obey the law..that's why they are criminals..it's just that simple.

If yer foolish enuff to place yer safety in the hands of others,then you deserve what you git--call 911...and die..it's just that simple.

If you bring a knife,bat or fists,to a gunfight..yer gonna lose..it's just that simple.

Here in Texas,guns are looked at as useful tools for hunting and gittin rid of predators that attack our livestock,as well as defending our family's and homes,when we are far away from a police response.

I got my first gun when I was only 11 years old,a single shot 22,then I got a semi-auto 22 rifle,I worked for the money and got them on my own,my dad saw how responsible I was and bought me a 30-30 Winchester,when I was 12 or so,and we went out deer hunting and I got my first buck,an 8 pointer. Back in the early 70's,we could even bring our guns to school and as long as we didn't take em out of our cars and trucks,it was okay. Many a time,we brought our rifles to school,so that we could go huntin and plinking,after school. Then modern liberalism raised it's ugly face..and suddenly ,guns were to be feared and the students were no longer trusted to be responsible for their guns. It was one of the silliest things we'd ever heard..I reckon that the liberals couldn't understand that we feared the wrath of our parents,if we mis-used a gun,more than what any cop would do.

Have a good one ...

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hey torog,ready to go hunting my friend,i bring the weapons and you bring the truth and reality and some quotes and we will do just fine.let me see where will this one goes

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Originally Posted by Wesley Pipes

yup, guns are for pussies who arent man enough to fight with their fists.:dance:

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Generally speaking, fighting in any form (excepting sporting events like martial arts tournaments) is for idiots who can't control their tempers or are too stupid to argue a point with their intellect and simply want to impose their will on others. If some one is coming at me with fists, a knife or club, or any other weapon, all bets are off and I am going to assume that the fool wants to kill me and therefore I will attempt to disable or, if absolutely necessary, kill that person first. Therefore I will pick up and utilize any weapon available to me from a rock to a bowling ball or if it's handy, my trusty 9mm. Especially if said nutcase is in my house. Never lose site of the fact that we humans are still animals and are not nearly as far removed from that animal behavior and instinct as we would like to believe. Your assertion that it is more noble or manly to fight with your fists, as well as your insistance on taking weapons away from law abiding responsible citizens, therefore attempting to force the rest of the world to agree with your views, is a perfect example of that.

BTW...nice to see erceg back in the game. hope you're feeling well.

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Originally Posted by da haze meister

i think that everyone should have to take extensive gun safety courses before they can own, possess, carry, or shoot a firearm. since i cant appropriately draw the line between hillbilly and good, thats the best i can do.

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I think this is the most intelligent thing that has been said over these 8 pages of debate. It seems that most people are talking about protecting themselves, their property and loved ones, and using guns as the means. I personally wouldn't choose this option, but as long as guns are legal, others should have the right to make their own choice. Some also use guns for recreation, and that's cool.
It's the people that use/have guns irresponsibly, without regard for it's deadly potential that piss me off. Or the (mostly) men who see them as some kind of status symbol, some extension of their masculinity(sp?). Oh, yeah...and the criminals...I don't think you should be happy about criminals with or without guns! Of course, we are all probably criminals here, since we're on a marijuana website. :D The NRA also pisses me off. They don't seem willing to compromise on any issues, or work with lawmakers towards a middle ground on gun issues.
Now, I don't own a gun, nor do I want to. But, I'm glad I have that choice and that others get to decide for themselves.

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Originally Posted by erceg

hey torog,ready to go hunting my friend,i bring the weapons and you bring the truth and reality and some quotes and we will do just fine.let me see where will this one goes

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Howdy erceg,

Yeeehhhaaawww !!! Heck yeah ! I'm ready !

I tell you what,some folks sure do have some funny ideas about guns,I don't know why they don't understand,a bullet is the one thing,that criminals and politicians fear..the way I see it,the goverment and criminals,should be afraid of us,not the other way around.

Have a good one ! :stoned: