Will 150w HPS outperform 372w of T5HO?

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Originally Posted by Chromophore

Under the microscope the trichomes appeared less "cloudy" than when I looked at them with a hand-held loupe under the growlights, so this could be tricky. My grower-friend who was over a few days ago said it's hard to get all the buds to have the same degree of maturation, so you have to go on an individual basis. He said his rule of thumb was to pick when the bud had mostly cloudy trichomes, with an equal amount of both clear and amber/black. But Rosenthal says it's a bit of a user preference because you're really selecting for THC vs CDBs, with the latter being present in the cloudies, the former enriched in the clears.

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Ok. It is a users preferance. Clear is immature. Cloudy/milky (terminology can be interchangeable) is when thc is present & ready, cbn just starting to come into play. Amber, cbn comes to the forefront as thc starts to degrade. All amber, dark, forget about thc. Its all cbn at this point & what you have is a tranquilizer. A combination of milky/amber is what you're after. More milky, an energizing up kind of high. More amber, that would be your couch lock, like what OMB & I are both after. I LIKE any kind of pot buzz, but insomnia & muscle spasams, night pain lead me to the couch lock buzz. A few energizing buds are nice to have around for the am with my coffee on the mornings after I've had little/no sleep, but have things needing done. Hope this helps you 'younguns' decide what you want. My man Ed's right. Ripeness is a personal choice!
-- I'm going to go see if I can find 'ripening & cureing your buds' so I can lead you guys right to it. Its a necessary read, & YES, its very important! ......I'll be back......

Oops! Before I go... OMB.. Did you harvest plants before you had AMBER??? If you did, you missed the couch lock high you are after. Hummm... boy, you don't need to learn how to grow (you can already do that), you need to learn how to be patient! Don't move till I get back

Nothing cut mama....I'm not moving until you get back!
Wait....can I go to the bathroom? ;)

This thread? http://boards.cannabis.com/grow-faqs...your-buds.html

Thanks for that explanation catbuds, that's just what OMB and I need at this point. I personally prefer the "up" and "talkative" effects, but this is for a patient and she wants the pain relief. However, she also wants to combat the exhaustion those goes along with her auto-immune disease, so based on what you're saying I probably want to harvest when I'm at 50/50 cloudy/amber. I still have a ways to go. I still have a lot of clears that are small and in the process of filling.

Well OMB after reading through the curing and drying thread, one thing became very clear: you and I are going to have to somehow acquire even MORE patience. It's like torture.

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Originally Posted by Chromophore

Thanks for that explanation catbuds, that's just what OMB and I need at this point. I personally prefer the "up" and "talkative" effects, but this is for a patient and she wants the pain relief. However, she also wants to combat the exhaustion those goes along with her auto-immune disease, so based on what you're saying I probably want to harvest when I'm at 50/50 cloudy/amber. I still have a ways to go. I still have a lot of clears that are small and in the process of filling.

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Hey Chromo, the other issue with reading the Trichomes is the plant continues to produce clear one's during the process. Hence my apprehension...So I have clears, cloudies, a few milkies and some amber....and I hit 8 weeks today.
Now my biggest issue is space. I added 4 new girls into flower 12/31 to replace the 4 I already had in flower and now it's getting mighty crowded since they are really starting to pop. Tough problem to have, huh? Trying to get my timing down for a once a month, 2 plant harvest. Just trying to keep myself in meds, that's all I need.
It will workout well if the T5 girls are done in another week and the HPS one's follow a week later.
That way I will alway's have 2 that should theoretically be higher in THC or CBD's...a 2 week stagger in total 12/12 time.
..... that's the (current) plan anyway. Then I will know which one works better for me. (THC or CBD's)

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Originally Posted by Chromophore

Well OMB after reading through the curing and drying thread, one thing became very clear: you and I are going to have to somehow acquire even MORE patience. It's like torture.

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Hahahaha....No, wait a second.That will be another week to dry and then a month to cure.
AAAAAAAUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGH!! :(

I can understand completely. Always very anxious to know how good the results are. But time is what gives us the results we want. Once I got going, having a good head stash from the previous grow and the grow before that is the best reward for our efforts. I must have lots of patience though, I like to smoke the long flowering haze strains. So I must endure the long flowering time to get the herb.

Here's what I do to make sure I have 'milky ams' & 'amber pms'..... 'scope my buds twice a day. Harvest when I have some buds milky with just a little amber, but most buds amber with just a few milky. Then as I manicure the buds, seperate them into their two seperate piles & dry on a rack. Jar them separately & label as am & pm. That covers all the bases for my medical needs & keeps the old head happily buzzed too!
-- Yep OMB, that's the thread! Bookmark it?
-- To acquire paitence, one must first reach a zen like state & then.... FUCK! WHO THE HELL AM I KIDDING!!! LMAO!! I HAVE ABSOULTY NO PAITENCE EITHER!!!! NOPE! NODA! ZILCH! LOL! Guys, I'm lucky if I can keep my hands out of the curing jar the first week! That thread will teach you how to reach perfection in your buds. Now if anyone can find find a thread that teaches patience, I'll jump on that one with all. Four. Feet! ;)
-- OMB... Go to the bathroom..... unless you want to mop the floor....... ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)