First attempt at a 24-hour "Martian Method"

Haven't heard from Weez... I hope everything's OK...

Thanks for the breakdown on the different aspects, Sal. I have a plan for the new plants, but first I have to figure out why the hell the root rot keeps coming back. I hope some new air stones are going to be the answer I'm looking for, because other than that, I'm STUMPED.

These Super Silver Haze plants are stretchy as hell, so they're going to be tricky squeezing into this tight space, but I'll manage. :-)

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Haven't heard from Weez... I hope everything's OK...

Thanks for the breakdown on the different aspects, Sal. I have a plan for the new plants, but first I have to figure out why the hell the root rot keeps coming back. I hope some new air stones are going to be the answer I'm looking for, because other than that, I'm STUMPED.

These Super Silver Haze plants are stretchy as hell, so they're going to be tricky squeezing into this tight space, but I'll manage. :-)

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Sorry, had to go collect the wife from the Hospital.
I'll be playing head nurse for a while.

As to the root rot.
You have eliminated other variables so I'm guessing it's the water.
My tap water grows some black hairy yuck on roots.

So, I collected a few barrels of rainwater, added enough Calmag to hit 250ppm. then added nutes to 800ppm.

Now I can run at 90 F. with no worries.
I think the culprit is the flocculant that they use to clarify the tap water here but can't say for sure.

Have had 0 problems with the rainwater.

Better luck.
Weezard

Hi all... I got a compression pic here. The first flower is 5 weeks old using red inc's/cfl's lights and a 400w HPS. It's from post #162. The second flower is also 5 weeks old but with 12-12 400w HPS and SID (standard indoor darkness).

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You have eliminated other variables so I'm guessing it's the water.
My tap water grows some black hairy yuck on roots.

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It IS the water! I swapped out the water with some R/O water (you know the kind you get out of the "vending machines" in front of the grocery store?) and the plants are healthy and happy. There's still a snot buildup on the roots that I have to get rid of (pythium?) but I just picked up some strong H2O2 that will help me keep it at bay. Also, there is a burst of new, clean, healthy white roots growing out of the net pots now, and they'll be a good replacement for the old, long, stringy roots that have been battered by the root rot.

You're a great healer, Weez!

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Hi all... I got a compression pic here. The first flower is 5 weeks old using red inc's/cfl's lights and a 400w HPS. It's from post #162. The second flower is also 5 weeks old but with 12-12 400w HPS and SID (standard indoor darkness).

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So what do you think, Dog? What are the differences that you notice? From the pictures, they look pretty similar, but I know that pictures are never the same as looking at it yourself...

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Originally Posted by Mother

It IS the water! I swapped out the water with some R/O water (you know the kind you get out of the "vending machines" in front of the grocery store?) and the plants are healthy and happy. There's still a snot buildup on the roots that I have to get rid of (pythium?) but I just picked up some strong H2O2 that will help me keep it at bay. Also, there is a burst of new, clean, healthy white roots growing out of the net pots now, and they'll be a good replacement for the old, long, stringy roots that have been battered by the root rot.

You're a great healer, Weez!

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Happy to he'p, ma.:)
I owe ya, big time for doing the experiments I wish I could do. :weedpoke:

Mahalo
Weezard

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So what do you think, Dog? What are the differences that you notice? From the pictures, they look pretty similar, but I know that pictures are never the same as looking at it yourself...

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If I compare the top 3 inches or so I see a lot more white hairs on the (red inc/cfl flower). The flower with the red inc'/cfl's also looks slightly thicker to me and has about 5% more trichomes IMO. Remember this batch only had the Martian lights on 4 extra hours. The other batch we ran red inc's/cfl's for 11 extra hours throughout most of the flowering cycle and they had about 15% more trichomes IMO. The 12/12 SID flower looks more leafy to me. Next time my uncle and I need to tweak the PAD spectrum and the timers a little.
Time To Step This Up a Notch..:rastasmoke:

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If I compare the top 3 inches or so I see a lot more white hairs on the (red inc/cfl flower). The flower with the red inc'/cfl's also looks slightly thicker to me and has about 5% more trichomes IMO. Remember this batch only had the Martian lights on 4 extra hours. The other batch we ran red inc's/cfl's for 11 extra hours throughout most of the flowering cycle and they had about 15% more trichomes IMO. The 12/12 SID flower looks more leafy to me. Next time my uncle and I need to tweak the PAD spectrum and the timers a little.
Time To Step This Up a Notch..:rastasmoke:

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Very interesting. These results are rather similar to my friend's results (remember the Sour-D?) on a new batch that has only 1-2 hours AD. Just a little less leafy, a little more dense, and a little more resinous.

This all makes sense if the difference is because less energy is being devoted to vegging functions (less daytime) and more energy is being devoted to flowering/ripening functions, because of the AD.

Now I'm really excited to try a 6/10/8 schedule!

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Just a little less leafy, a little more dense, and a little more resinous.

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That was exactly how it was...:thumbsup:

My uncle and I just need to play around with the PAD light spectrums a little and also get the ripening time to speed up:jointsmile:.. When we get this technique down there will be no doubt I will never flower with conventional SID only again..

Great observation MOM!...Thanks

Here is another tech note for post # 183. The flower grown under 10 hours hps and 4 hours of red inc/cfl cost my uncle 192 watts less a day then the flower grown with 12 hours of HPS. Basically 10 hours of HPS instead of 12 saved him 800 watts a day. The 100 watts of red inc's and 52 watts of red cfl's adds up to be 152w x 4hours = 608w a day instead of 800w a day. Saving him 192w a day.... Gotta like that..