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'Hound is a chicka ???.....Hell, learn summin every day. Not that it matters, but I didnt know that. Sorry if I have addressed you as a d00d, 'Hound.
Gotta love them bluebloods:thumbsup: :thumbsup: I am a firm believer in starting with good genetics. I even believe if FIRST grow you should start with quality. Learn to grow quality from the get go. I am sure most disagree, but such is life. Pissin with bagseed to grow herm's makes little or no sense to me. I know not every plant herm's, but bagseed is a crap shoot in my opinion, for what its worth.
I am looking at starting flush Wednesday and chop Saturday. According to my bible (notes) that will be perfect. Trichs right about where they need to be. Time then to clean everything up and shut things down til fall. Of course I'll keep my mom's going for next season. I need to fix them up with a simple drip system instead of hand watering which wont take much. I keep them in Coco.
If I didnt grow hydro, I swear I'd grow in Coco before I EVER fugged with dirt. Stuff is amazing and plants grow like crazy in it. Cant overwater it, one brick makes a shitload, blah blah blah. It has all kinds of advantages. I think perfect medium for a newbie to use. Most newb's either drown or evaporate plants, tuff to do in Coco.
I think next winter I am going to do a 3'x3' ScroG with a 400 watter in Coco. Will find some exotic connsieur (I know I dint spel that write) strain that is ScroGable (new word) for it. Might get me a pack of Vortex from T.G.A. and grow them out in 'dro til I get me a mom. I read it works great in ScroG setup, and its a great smoke. Plus I really like their genetics. I grow Jilly Bean and thats a beautiful plant and a whip your ass smoke. I have a perfect mother with the qualities of a runway model of her.
I burnt about 1/4 of a d00b yesterday of absolutely perfectly cured Jilly Bean (around 10 weeks) and it destroyed my azz. Was too damn high to even put the tractor back in the shed til last night..........LMAO
I need to get a pack of NL for next year, too. Read nothing but good about, but never smoked it. I gotta see whats its all about. Like to grow NYCD, but I am not sure I need anything that potent.........LOL I read it makes you throw rocks at your OWN house......:D :D
Love my Whites (Rhino, Widow) as well. Problem is, I want to grow so many strains but dont have the room. And I have to keep a mother of anything I grow. Growing from seed sucks wind real bad. I hate it, but gotta do to get new strains in the stable, I know................
ASD, I never was sold on that weekly change of rez. Now I think if you got small rez it is probably necessary, but only then. Of course the nute companies suggest weekly change, but they love you pouring their product down the drain, too. I change mine every other Sunday, and my plants seem as happy as a pig in chit. I have done weekly and bi-weekly, see no difference.
When I put laundry sink in grow room I put a straight Y (different than standard Y) right before trap. glued a piece of pipe just long enough to hold end cap to it, fastened end cap with band clamp, not glue in case I ever need to take off for whatever reason. Drilled hole in end cap the size of hose, 5/8's I think, cut hose just long enough to reach valve on rez furtherest away, and fed hose through end cap. Then put new plastic ends back on it. Holds the hose in there so when I need to drain rez's I screw hose to valve, open, and run each one right in the drain. Makes life so simple, and I dont have water slopped all over the place anymore messin with buckets. Another handy tip for y'all.
Hope everyone had a great weekend.
Keep 'em green,
b0nger
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Bonger - you grow the jillybean huh? I am jealous. I just started some dannyboy seeds that I won on a breedbay auction. I hate growing from seeds too - such a pain in the ass. I am looking for Mrs. Right - hopefully she will give me an assload of dannyboy cuts throughout the next year. Subcool and TGA is the bomb! I want to cross the dannyboy with this banana kush cut that I found - we will see what happens.
ASD - You know what, I am not a Kool Bloom expert but yes there are two different kinds of Kool Bloom! The dry version seems a lot different than the liquid version also. Maybe you should use it now? I dont know. Im sure a little probably wouldnt hurt anyway. Just watch what happens to the plants and let us know ok?
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Tom, keep me posted on Danny. I have done some research (not nearly enough I know) but in order to cross a plant dont you have to keep crossing and growing them out in order to get a stabilized strain or am I full of condensed monkey shit with this idea ? I swear I read that the reason it takes so long to get good genetics is because it takes years of crossing and recrossing of the two plants.
If I crossed Rhino and Widow I'd have a Widowed Rhino........<groan> That was sad for a joke.......
I'll do some more reading on the breeding thing one of these days. For now I am happy with clones from my moms. Seed grows <shudder>..........
By the way, glad ya are posting here, Tom. This is an excellent thread IMO. We just have to keep ASD from uppin his PPM's to 3500, but 'Hound keeps him in check on that......:D :D
Anyways, keepin it green,
b0nger
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Bonger - I think you are talking about strain stabilization - which would take a long ass time and I dont have the room. I was basically just thinking about keeping the dannyboy males that I have and pollinating the banana kush to see if I could get some cherry kush or some banana taco or maybe even a cherry banana type cross. Its not really breeding for stability or an IBL, its just a cross to see what happens. When subcool breeds his plants I think he just selects good a good mother and a nice looking father but doesnt really do alot of stabilization work - that would take forever - and he comes out with new seeds every year or so. I agree - this is a good thread. It seems like we are all learning from each other which is cool - we gotta help each other grow that danky dank. ASD is doing good huh?
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My hydro J just frowns at me for growing from seed...."youre STILL growing from seeds? EVERY time???" But quite honestly I like it.....when those first little puppies pop their skins I always feel so proud. :D Plus, as bonger mentioned with cloning.....have to keep Mom around, a seperate set-up for clones etc... But my real reason is simply that I do not want to be tied down to one type of the green.....there are simply too many choices out there for me not to want to partake in as many as possible. :thumbsup: All the different kinds.....all the different highs. Could be a life-long project (hopefully :D :stoned: )
Bonger, everyone says that about me.....maybe it's my sailor mouth, lol.
I have some White widow seeds I am wanting to try next grow. Somebody mentioned to me that WW seems rather sensitive to nutes....he ended up using about 20% less nutes than usual. How did yours grow when you grew them?
Latewood has a formula listed under indoor growing about GH nutes and the lucas formula. I studied it at some point but found it rather complicated for my taste. It is supposed to be a very popular method however and from my understanding the rez changes are very minimal throughout the grow....just topping off rez. So that is definitely an accepted theory; fewer rez changes. I actually change mine more often..... I really like the pump it seems to give my plants and probably do rez changes twice a week. For me it's actually easier to do everything from the central controller than to check each individual bucket. I'm quite sure I am wasting nutes but it's a hell of a lot easier on my back. ;)
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Things seem to be going well...I got the res changed today it's sitting at just under 1300 total...160 starting...50 of bcuzz...130 koolbloom...rest maxibloom
my water was clean and no smell or cloudiness this change was like 15 days so I'm keepin notes...how does the coco break up? could I use that as the medium in the net pots of aero instead of hydroton? I'm not happy with how wet the hydroton got before the roots grew to hang in the air but the airstones/airpump might help that
I can't deny that sense of accomplishment when I see a little seed break out...I didn't see anymore seeds pop unfortunately so I figured after a week I'd crack them with a plier gently as possible and see if they grow...if not they're gettin tossed...still have a few more I can try so it'll be ongoin...I'd like to use rockwool if possible instead of the organic plugs just to keep the res cleaner and avoid somethin that could clog the pump...
I think I'm gonna need several little setups...germination/seedling(possibly 2 seed&clones)/veg/flower
I'd have to say after checkin the pics I'm pretty psyched found a fan leaf with 11...I can't wait to see them tomorrow morning after the res change takes hold...first 2 are Zola (Cola & Bud shot) last 2 are Eve (Cola & Bud shot) Lemme know how they look
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look a them girlie girls - thas what Im talkin about home slice. Them the tasty little hosnatches right there, what?
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ASD.....amazing what happens when you keep the PPM's under 7500, huh..................LMAOOOOOOOOO:D :D
I love rockwool in hydroton. That trips mah trigger. Read how I told whoever it is in Emergency Room Help Needed or whatever that thread is called in this section on how to make a handy dandy light proof cover for the top of ya pots.
I keep my moms in Coco, and I am going to put on drip system that runs to drain, not drains back to rez. Dont know if its going to work very well (not sure how much water I am going to use or how often I'll have to add), but I am going to try that way. I guess if you used a filter bag you could drain to rez. I wonder if Coco fibers in the rez promote or grow any kinds of funky shit after a while. GUess I'll just need to add some Hydrogaurd like I do to my aero rez's if I drain to rez. I need to think this over for a few days.
I am looking to put my moms on autopilot or close to it for the summer. So the less hassles I have, the better.
'Hound, I iz with ya on new stuff all the time. And if thats to yer liking, have at it. Late summer I'll be crackin some new stuff to have around for next fall/winter enjoyment (getting headache just thinking about it). Really wanna do that Vortex in ScroG setup. For some reason that excites me.
Was looking at some post on seeds. There is a strain called Thunderfuck (love that name) and one called Bubba Kush, 240.00 and 300.00 respectively. I wonder if they are all that GOOD ? Dr Greenthumb is seedbank if ya wanna check out.
Growin it green (my lawn),
b0nger
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thanks tomas :stoned: now all I gotta do is make them bigger
ppm @ 1350 and ph is at 5.4 it climbed all the way to 6 in 24 hours so I'll have to check it at lights out to make sure it's stayin down
I finished playin with the airstones/pump...it's installed now just under the intake of the pump...one airstone on each side...it's definately got little bubbles forming all over the place so the roots better be happy haha should help with the issue of younger plants too but I got a while before I can test that...
I'm not positive but I think the ph of the tank climbed because of the air...if anyone else has experienced this lemme know
lemme know how much a mess the coco makes if ya do a recirculating hydro with it I'm thinking the dehumidier is helping cause I can see more of hairs on the leaves at the colas
Those are some expensive seeds...for now I'm just happy to be in motion with everything...once ya get it started the rest seems to come so easily...I'll probably just use the seeds I got till I run out & I'll most likely keep 1 mother from each strain maybe 2 if characteristics warrant it
I definately wanna get some cool colored strains eventually...definately a few that are more sativa than what I have now white elephant looked like a cool strain ooooh all those crystals :D
be back later I still have tons to get done today
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SPEAKING OF WHICH........SCROG set up Bonger...if you need photo I will start new thread. Can you think of a way to do scrog on my waterfarm set-up? My main issue is trying to do something that will still let me be able to lift pots out if necessary but do not know if that is possible?
ASD your plants look GREAT! We will all be there to partake of the harvest....probably leaving you with nothing...lol. No kidding though they really do look excellent. Nice color and nice bud production. :thumbsup:
Bonger right now the selection of seeds I have inclues W widow, Ice, Crystal Limit, Master Kush-X, some Haze (which I am going to try to grow outside this year due to long flowering time) Bubblegum, and possibly some Blueberry-X . :thumbsup: Also a buttload of my "Blue russian" bagseed (named by the dealer so god knows but the weed really kicks ass) and some seeds from bagseed that I'm positive is a version of CatPiss. Smells like catpiss when growing, just sitting there, after you smoke it, no matter what.....catpiss everywhere. Makes you wonder what the Thunderfuck smells like....? :) There were also a couple free seeds that came with the original seed order....called Sweet Dreams or something. It's really hard not to just throw them all in some soil so I can have them all at once but the reality of that is......I will kill them in soil. AGGGGGG!