Do you believe in god?

I personally didn't ever care about Christians. I still really don't. I don't agree with their ideals, and I think that Christianity was and is a tool used by authority figures to manipulate the masses with. I think it's a spiritual slavery, and I feel pity for those people out there that need religion. I have been cut down, mistreated, and called out at times in my life because I am atheist, because I didn't believe in a 2000 year old book that dictates how and why I should live my life. Instead of forsaking the logic of science, not to mention just plain logic, I chose to forsake this book. And because of that perfectly sensible, intelligent move, I am treated like shit and I'm bashed everyday by the Christian world. "Put up the ten commandments in courthouses, make abortion illegal, we're right and you're wrong, you're going to burn in hell unless you conform, yada yada..."

I've just gotten to the point where I think it's time bash back, because I'm sick and tired of Christianity. It's just an excuse as to why we are here, what we should be doing during our time here, and what comes next.

Wow Likemclever, your attacking him because he's from Canada.....So is Canada an "atheist" commie state? Otherwise except for a few more civil liberties and a much smaller military industry its the same....(oh except the majority of time it is colder on average than "down in the states".....).

But hey I guess im just a godless Canadian crying in my beer....(im also American so is half of me worthwhile at least?)...

It's not the fact YOUR a christian its support for an organization(by claiming affiliation with such that is support however tacit it may be) that cripples free thought and claims all sorts of things about us "godless" folks ;). Anyone getting down and dirty is just being immature about the discussion just ignore em.

I actually don't really have anything against Canada.........I look at them pretty much like any other country that pretends to be our friend.....(I'm not saying that to be an ass....just how I see it)......

A major reason why Canada's military is so much smaller is because it borders the United States......and ultimately if you were to be invaded or attacked who do you think would defend it...........Canada?????????? (same goes for Mexico)

I claim affiliation with Christ........

And I do think it's the fact that I'm a Christian.....I am TRYING to be civil......

people have been on my case since my first post in this thread........what a peace loving, open minded, tolerant bunch.......

I posted in this thread by accident actually......I thought it was in the lounge.....I never post in here.......and this is why. This forum isn't about spiritual discussion. It's about hate.....

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Originally Posted by likemclever

I have not been alive for 2,000 yearsâ?¦â?¦.so Iâ??m pretty sure I havenâ??t done shit to you.

Iâ??m not putting anyone down because they DONâ??T believe in God.

And Iâ??m pretty sure no one has tortured or threatened to kill you because you donâ??t believe.


Sorry to have offended you greatly ��errrr�..I guess.

So you donâ??t want freedom of religionâ?¦â?¦.hmmm.

I think perhaps youâ??re in the wrong country.



AGAINâ?¦..I still donâ??t know why the fact that Iâ??m a Christian makes a shit to you or anyone else.


Edit: Nevermind I just saw that your from Canada.....perhaps you are in the right country.

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You personally didn't do anything to me, don't think what I said was aimed personally at you. However, your beliefs offend me. Maybe you're different, maybe you're more open-minded, nonetheless Christianity offends me, and it's only getting worse. My parents are religious, doesn't mean I hate them...

When I said "you" I didn't mean you, likemclever. I meant Christianity in general. But whatever, if you feel included, too bad.

BTW, what the fuck does me being from Canada have anything to do with what we're talking about? You know me because I'm from Canada, now?

And who said anything about religious freedom? For now, you can believe whatever you like, I don't give two shits. But I'm still wishing for the complete eradication of religion. I can dream....

Oh, and stop playing the victim... Nobody's out to get you, specifically. Don't be that arrogant.

I personally don't see why condemning such a hateful ideology as Christianity is any worse than condemning other hateful ideologies like Stalinism, white supremacy, or fascism. Certainly Christianity has caused far more death and misanthropy than those three put together. It just has a lot more "true believers". Christianity teaches us that all the good things about mankind are the result of some divine entity to which we are all slaves, and all the negative things about mankind are the result of an innate wickedness everybody has from birth. This creates such a profound hatred for mankind that ridding the world of Christianity is absolutely imperative if this is ever to become a truly peaceful planet.

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Originally Posted by F L E S H

You personally didn't do anything to me, don't think what I said was aimed personally at you. However, your beliefs offend me. Maybe you're different, maybe you're more open-minded, nonetheless Christianity offends me, and it's only getting worse. My parents are religious, doesn't mean I hate them...

When I said "you" I didn't mean you, likemclever. I meant Christianity in general. But whatever, if you feel included, too bad.

BTW, what the fuck does me being from Canada have anything to do with what we're talking about? You know me because I'm from Canada, now?

And who said anything about religious freedom? For now, you can believe whatever you like, I don't give two shits. But I'm still wishing for the complete eradication of religion. I can dream....

Oh, and stop playing the victim... Nobody's out to get you, specifically. Don't be that arrogant.

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lolâ?¦..

Thereâ??s this guy I know who doesnâ??t use deodorant because he thinks it causes cancerâ?¦â?¦â?¦â?¦..his beliefs offend me too but I donâ??t think heâ??s an evil closed minded person.

Iâ??m sorry flesh I assumed that when you quoted me and said the word â??youâ?� a whole bunch of timesâ?¦..you were talking to me.

I think you have about as much of a chance of getting rid of religion as you do getting rid of country musicâ?¦â?¦but yes you can dream thatâ??s why their called â??dreamsâ?�.

And please��.It would take more than internet bickering to victimize me.

But I do seem to be the only one at the bottom of the Atheist dog pile at the moment.

Peace~

Okay look, i'm not being funny, but when it comes to this debate.. it's interesting and all, sometimes. But really there IS no debate. There's no question, seriously, as to whether God exists or not. Every rational and logical person concedes that he does not. Those who believe he does are, by definition, irrational and illogical.

There is no God. There is no question.

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Originally Posted by likemclever

lolâ?¦..

Thereâ??s this guy I know who doesnâ??t use deodorant because he thinks it causes cancerâ?¦â?¦â?¦â?¦..his beliefs offend me too but I donâ??t think heâ??s an evil closed minded person.

Iâ??m sorry flesh I assumed that when you quoted me and said the word â??youâ?� a whole bunch of timesâ?¦..you were talking to me.

I think you have about as much of a chance of getting rid of religion as you do getting rid of country musicâ?¦â?¦but yes you can dream thatâ??s why their called â??dreamsâ?�.

And please��.It would take more than internet bickering to victimize me.

But I do seem to be the only one at the bottom of the Atheist dog pile at the moment.

Peace~

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Hey that's cool. I'm sure there are people who agree with you who have read this thread but are either too scared to argue their case or don't have enough conviction in their beliefs to do so. It's cool when somebody sticks up for what they believe in, no matter what it is. :)

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Originally Posted by GHoSToKeR

Every rational and logical person concedes that he does not. Those who believe he does are, by definition, irrational and illogical.

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OK....now your just being silly....... :rolleyes:

How so?

There is not a single scrap of evidence or proof that God exists or has existed. There is supposition, yes. There is rumour. There is heresay and myth and there are stories.

But there is absolutely no proof or evidence. After thousands of years not one person has managed to bring anything to the table that might suggest even for a second that God exists, or at least did in the past. Logic would dictate that this means he does not exist. A rational person would agree with this.