Please help! Droopy Plants
Ok,....under plant problems there is a thread called Zinc Tox. I will bump it up to the top. The very last thing listed is a photo of nuteburn....edges curled down, leaves feeling crispy, tips yellowed/curled downburned etc...you should look through it.....lots of signs mimic each other.....these are your plants so you will have to make the call and what you think.....without seeing the plants it's very hard for me to say.
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The leaves themselves have more of an overall curl to them like a banana but I wouldn't say the edge is more curled than the rest of the leaf...there is no edge yellowing to speak of and as for leaf texture they definately aren't that wet leathery feel like when they were little but I don't think I'd go as far as to say crispy either I'd settle on the dry somewhat stiff side
hmm...well again I've done several things so I'm not quite sure but they look/feel healthy to me a bit darker green than before maybe...adding mylar might have encouraged the plant leaves to start growing sideways (I can see this pronounced with a few near the corner)...and the heat stress with the water off definately made the stems/leaves shrink a tad, curl, and stiffin up quite a bit...since the dehydration stint I have noticed (although it's kinda slow) that the leaves especially near the top are starting to lift/flatten up more and more...I'm still monitoring pretty closely and once I change the res I'll start it at a lower ppm to see if the plants dump some out and look happier...
All in all I'm happy content with the progress Eve is looking like bud is starting and Zola still seems to be pulling away in bud production. The c99 x sweettooth#3 is probably just a longer flowering plant than the bagseed indica...if the person bought the indica to sell I'm sure they wanted a fast finishing high yielder...
Lemme check that zinc tox thread I'll post back in a bit
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After looking through that link which was pretty extensive by the way...it was nice to see some different pictures of a specific problem...hard to find those things usually they are all copied from the same source...Good find WH ;)
I figure I'm just at the upper limit of fert...I don't see any spotting or brittle issues and the curling isn't as bad as before...I'm figuring even though it's probably overfed a bit it's not severe and should be cleared up with the res change...I'm planning to add a 1/2 dose of koolbloom to this res as I'm approaching the halfway mark and next time I'll probably go just under the recommended strength...do you normally just follow the instructions for the bloom boost food?
I'm really gettin excited now that I can see what looks like bud rather than just hairs hehe can't wait...
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ASD........back to those notes you are keeping next grow:D :D You will know what your RH was for the entire grow and you simply mirror it for the next crop or tweak one way or the other and see if it changes your end result. I dont know if pushin the 60% window means more bud or not. My concern was havin show pony unit sized buds gettin moldy. That would fug my whole day up. Again, I always err to the safe side of the numbers.
To ponder as well, some strains are almost immune to bud rot, while others are very suceptible. Again, notes notes notes..............
By the way, I do not comment on your plant problems for the simple reason 'Hound is doing an excellent job working with you. And I am a firm believer that more than one cook ruins the pot of soup. You start trying to do 4 different things at once from a few sources you are going to make a fuckin mess.
Well, I hear the whip crackin, lunch break must be over. If I dont get back out in yard the beatings will continue around here.......damn ole lady is a mean ass boss to work for. Pay sucks, too.......lol:D :D
Think I might even have to hit up one of the new jars this afternoon when I get chores completed. I am in the mood to get a little tuned in I do believe.:rasta: :rasta:
Keep em green,
b0nger
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Bonger you made my day with that statement.:D The second (and also brilliant) statement you made in my opinion (no...not the beatings comment) but staying on the safe side of the numbers. :thumbsup: :thumbsup: That is so much easier to do than damage control. ;) I don't push humidity for the exact same reason you state Bonger....I am terrified of mold, fungus etc. That few grams I may get are simply not enough of a carrot to me to risk the crop over......way too much work to end up with nothing.
ASD the bloom stimulator I use is Hydroplex and goes with the Botanicare line. I follow it the way hydro J told me to but keep in mind I use RO water. At the end of blooming my ppms are pretty much as follows:
ppms.....1300 total
CalMag....500ppm...Replacement for calcium etc.. for RO water
Pro bloom..250ppm...reg bloom nutes
Hydroplex ...250ppm...bloom stimulator
Liquid Karma....150ppm...supplement
Sweet....150ppm....supplement
I would probably just follow whatever directions are on the KoolBloom as I have not used it so... It does seem to be a pretty popular thing so perhaps Bonger or others have an idea how best to use it.
If your leaves are sort of stiff vs dry, crispy feeling than you are probably dealing with heat stress as opposed to overnute.....especially if problems began after......the episode.....:D
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I agree Bonger...Hound is living up to her name beautifully :D I'm definately starting to see how much better it is to error on the safe side especially given all the new things I'm messin with
Thanks again for all the help Hound I wouldn't have made it this far without ya :thumbsup: I'm gonna have to lookup those supplements and compare them to what I'm using so I know which compares to which
The res change is goin down tomorrow...I believe it will be 15 days since my last change so it's definately time...probably a bit late actually but I'll just keep the notes on plant reaction...I'm gonna go with a total of 1300ppm I'll put in the recommended dose for koolbloom & bcuzz stimulator and adjust the rest with maxibloom I'm also planning to put the airstones in the res and hookup the airpump etc
The door is the only thing left to put on and then I can work in the room itself *pats his own back* actually framing out stuff was a pain but it was a good place to learn since it doesn't have to look all pretty
I'm soon to tackle the job of ventilation cause the room will be pretty much air tight once the door is hung
Hope everyone is enjoyin the weekend...ttyl
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Hey ASD - how are ya? Hey just wanted to let you know - on the GH site its says that you are supposed to add the kool bloom in the last 2 or 3 weeks of flowering. Kool Bloom is some really strong stuff - I wouldnt want you to hurt the girls. The liquid is 0-10-10 and the dry stuff is way potent. Which one do you have? I am using the Kool Bloom with Humbolts Gravity Hardener - The kool bloom is nice - the plants drink that shit up. The gravity stuff I just put on today - I will let you know how it works. Peace out homie. Growing weed is the shiite.
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Tom I have that gravity and have been afraid to use it.....I've heard some very scary stories about it but at the same time that if done right it's the cat's meow and can really make your yield kick ass! I would be very interested to see how that works out for you.....maybe I'll get the guts to try it this grow. I'm trying the "don't touch" approach this time so hopefully without me poking at them so often they'll do well with it; especially with the "purebloods" in the set-up. (Bonger!)
Thanks for the kind words you guys; I really do appreciate the feedback. Makes me feel...:cool:
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Yeah I have heard some scary stuff too - we will see what happens. I have been spending a lot more time in the grow room after I put the gravity in. I want to make sure nothing wierd happens so I have a bottle of flushing solution standing by. I have only been running it for 1 day now - I will let you guys know what happens. I actually started running it about a week later than it recommends but they should be ok. It might be an illusion but the buds do seem to be filling out a bit more...
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interesting Tomas I got the dry stuff...it's like 2-45-28 so like .5-15-10...I'm thinking about doing a very small amount maybe cause I'm not adding any other supplements this grow...so I was wonderin if I could get away with adding maybe 1/2 a teaspoon for the 10 gallon res...it says 1/4 tea per gallon so that would be like 1/5 strength...today is day 25 flowering and I did notice the plants getting on this lift with the light and by the end of the day they seem to want to drop back down before the light goes off...I'm wondering if that's cause of my high ppm...
you know you got yer setup goin on WH so I'll keep up with the advice of experience ;)
I'll let you guys know how the air pump and res change go a bit later today...I just read the label and it says to start this kind at the halfway mark so I'll check back to see the thoughts on possibly adding a touch of the koolbloom or just holding off all together before I do (are there multiple kinds of koolbloom?)