I think this poll is flawed. Where is the "Fuck no" option?
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I think this poll is flawed. Where is the "Fuck no" option?
I think it's a little funny that people that don't like Iran think Israel should death with them, as if Israel is so much better! At least Iran never supported Apartheid South Africa!
Man, a lot of people seem to be woefully ignorant about politics. This is one of the biggest problems in America. You can NOT have an effective opinion if you are not informed. You will just look like an idiot to anyone who actually took a few minutes to read the politics section from an unbiased news source (aka almost anyone by Fox news). Although, the media does have a slight liberal bias but not blatant like Fox.
Why don't you guys take a look a this:
Iran: Nuclear Intentions and Capabilities
http://www.dni.gov/press_releases/20071203_release.pdf
i will never support a war
Damn, I spent about an hour last night writing a book here about why we support Israel and what not, only to finish and get some sort of "Database Error"Quote:
Originally Posted by Nailhead
Anyways, We support Israel for several reasons. 1) they are the only democracy in the middle east, and the US does everything in their power to support democracy aka S. Korea. 2) Stregetic Importance- Israel allows the US use of their land to actively store tanks, artillery, and air force bases; they even train us in counter-intelligence about new terriorist warfare techniques 3) Israel played a huge role for us defeating Germany in both of the WW when the Arab nations, then known as the Ottoman Empire backed Germany.
If the US falls it wont be because of anything but our own greed and our own faults in our economic system. No Arabic nation will cause the fall of the US. If it really came down to it, we could take over the entire middle east. If it was a matter of life or death.
Israel has every right to defend themselves when the countries President has said he wants Israel whipped off the face of the map. Thats a pretty serious desire, and Israel will defend themselves.
Here are the 2 options; 1) The US helps support Israel in an attack on selected targets but plays a very limited role in the war. or 2) The US provides no aid (this will never happen BTW) and Israel feels the need to flex their muscle and nukes Iran killing millions and millions of people.
No matter what, If Israel feels Iran is close to getting a nuclear weapon, They will attack. Its a matter of what capacity. And Israel has about 60 armed nuclear warheads and the means to deliver them. While I know its hard to support a war. There is definetely consequences of the US not helping, and it will lead to much more bloodshed.
You have to take a step back to look at the larger picture. To say just turn your back on Israel now, is a rather fucked up thing to do, especially after Israels unconditional support since around 1900.
Hi guys just reading through some posts .What gets me is all this talk of W.M.Ds it's all to do with oil !.petrol chemical dollar recycling .O.P.E.C is run in dollars opec money is held in the Federal Reserve.Iran and Iraq ad a few minor league oil producers were planning to start their own consortium .The base for this was to be in europe and were going to use the euro for their transactions .If others jumped on the bandwagon the american economy would collapse rapidly .Don't get me started on afganistan .lol
take care.
I can't support war, but I'll support the Iranian peoples' right to fair representation, in spirit anyway. They despise their current leader, who is in office due to record voter apathy, much like a diebold stalemate, worldwide - it's a bit of a dulce et decorum est pro patria mori global scam, augmented with nations being meaningless beside corporate power. Automatons of media talking heads that must put the best spin on the next Spartacus gutter display of population control and contempt for the poor.
"Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori", is an old poem/story - and one man defending his homeland is still like ten attacking.
Actually, a war in Iran would have nothing to do with oil. Thats kind of the oppositions stance on everything in the middle east "All the US wants is oil."Quote:
Originally Posted by baldie1
Thats kind of ignorant considering there is a legit concern and actual construction of a nuclear plant taking place. The agrument comes from what Iran will do with the nuclear plant. I dont trust George Bush, but I definetely dont trust President Psycho of Iran who came to America and gave Anti-American speeches in hopes to cause rebels to revolt against our own government in hopes of creating an unstable US.
Thats the whole point of this Bin Laden tapes, even to this day. They attempt to hit close to home and "drive a wedge between the western people and their leaders"
Yes, the nuclear plant can be used for peaceful purposes, however Iran still refuses to allow UN inspectors in and only wants to answer to the IAEC (or something like that) which its entirely possible Iran has those inspectors on the payroll.
I believe we are doing the right thing, we are using diplomacy as we prepare for a 4th round of negioations with Iran, however they dont seem willing to open up their programme to other agencies, and if they wont budge, then the US needs to impose sanctions. Simple as that. Whats Israel does, is up to them. But if Iran continues what they are doing, and Israel decides to wage their own nuclear war, they will be at no fault but their own.
Not to mention Irans president repeatedly insults the President of France, and the PM of Britian. Hes very good at name calling because hes a fucking coward.
Dude I hate it when that shit happens, when it does I usually start cursing at my computer screen looking like a nutjob hahaQuote:
Originally Posted by AZExplorer
People who support wars are nothing but sheep, to put it simply. Learn to think for yourselves.