Please help! Droopy Plants
Why Bonger you DEVIL! You already had one! You sly thing you! And by the way, if you got all that done at your house in one day I have a list for you to tackle at my house.....:D
Wow it's interesting to me....perhaps because I'm not growing in a cabinet or something....that you would have an exhaust fan without some sort of intake. Like you said....the air has to come from somewhere. That seems like a basic to me. And if there is no good fresh air coming in what the heck is the exhaust pulling out? :wtf:
Hey Bonger what do you know about measuring footcandles/lumens?
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Well, I am not for hire:pimp: LOL
And what I know about figuring lumens/foot candles is as follows.
My aero setups take up 32 sq. ft. (4'x8') area
I have 3-600 watt lights above them @ 92,000 lumens each = 276,000 total lumens
276,000/32=8625/lumens per sq ft.
Or 56.25/watts per sq. ft.
Based on all I have read on this subject I have hells plenty of light. Thats it in a nutshell about what I know. Oh, and I know the the further you move away the more it diminishes with distance, exponentially.
Plants happy, I'm happy, and I have no need to know how to figger footcandles or how they fit in the big picture......LOL
Ya, gotta bring it in from someplace. I am guessing most do not grow in an air tight room. In my original design C02 was in the plan, so I am airtight. As I said, nix on the C02, so its a must I bring air in so that I may exhaust it out. If I didnt and the fan was running WFO exhausting air out, I might not be able to get the damn door open (suction)........LMAO
My room is actually part of an unused bedroom sealed off, so its really a room within a room setup, if ya get my drift. I have one window in the room that is not covered, doesnt need to be, and that way I can crack window, mix cool outside air with heated house air, or I can shut off register and use straight outside air, or I can draw cool'd AC air, or heated, humidity added air (older forced air furnaces make air thats drier than a popcorn fart) directly from room. Now when it was 9 fuggin degrees for the high of the day here, there was no cracks in the window to let that shit in, but this time of year I like letting this fresh spring air in and feeding that to the room. Then at night I shut and it just gets air from room. or leave open depending on the outside temp. It really allows me to keep temps in check very easily.
Gott run,
b0nger
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Well as for the vents I have a 6" vortex running through a carbon scrubber and was planning on exhausting that with passive intakes but I can see your point that it would try to create a vacuum...I'll have to figure out how to get that setup...I'm not sure if the room is completely air tight but it's going to be close enough by the time I'm finished...for now like I said I'm just scrubbing the air and blowing it around with some fans as the door isn't even on yet
Eve keeps getting taller by the day but still seems to be at the same bud rate as before...Zola doesn't seem to be getting much taller but I can tell that the top of the plant is looking mostly buddish at this point which is nice to see...
Unfortunately with the broken camera I can't get any good pics of the setup...stupid auto focus...I'm gonna miss my 8x optical but ehh what can ya do, I'll just have to pick one up eventually just another thing to add to the ever growing list
I know that not all the light is staying bounced around at the plants cause it's not wrapped all the way floor-ceiling with mylar but it seems like most is where it should be...I'm pretty much sold on the idea of going to a several bucket system...probably something very similar to the waterfarm only homemade...if I'm gonna have the buckets drain back to the res I have to lift them above the res line which will eat away at available height so I'm still kickin things around
Even with the setup as unfinished as it is the plants seem to be quite healthy...obviously excluding the heat stress when I had the light on Eve...
Right now the nutes are all maxibloom and the bcuzz stimulator it says wait till half way for the bloom boost so lemme know what ya think on that...
until tomorrow :thumbsup:
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I'm an idiot...my girl needed the dehumidifier and I just now put it back in the room so it's back in there...the lowest setting I can put is 35% which it's on now or I can just leave it on constantly but don't know if that's bad for the plants...
The first pic is Eve and the Second is Zola...neither are the top cola but I took a bunch of pictures and these were the best 2...I can make out hairs but I remember what they look like for real so gimme yer thoughts :D
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ASD...if dehumidifier does not have a way to set it to maintain a specific RH level, you could do this. You can go to Wally World and for about 20 bucks you can get a repeat cycle cement pond (swimmin pool) timer. Maybe run it for 30 minutes on, 30 off and check level. If too humid, increase, too dry derease cycle time, etc.
Also, once you get your ventilation issue squared away it will lower RH. Plants sweat (transpire) I think it is the technical name, so they create humidity. Plus my aeroponic systems add to RH as well. Since I bring fresh air in, and exhaust that stale shit out of grow room completely I have zero RH problems. Mine stays a stable 35-45%. I have read 60% is perfect, but I dont want to chance fungi, so I stay a little lower. And again, if I miss out on a few grams, BFD.
b0nger
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I have never named my plants, does that help?...........LMAO:rasta: :rasta:
Keep em green,
b0nger
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It's hard to tell from your photos......I may be seeing a bit of overnute there but I'm not positive......what's your ppms at? I'm having a hard time telling if that is just the way the leaves are or......the tips seem curled down.....are the edges of the leaves curled downward at all? I looked at an original pic you posted.....nice fat indica leaves at the begining and now they look thin and long.....do you know what kind of strains they are? Or possibly a photo of whole plant?
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That's I think I'll keep mine low for now...k I have mine set to 35% I can raise it if necessary I haven't had any growth issues either but if 35% is super low I can raise it to 45 or 50 depending...45 might be a much more natural humdity level for our basement too...it just seems to stay around there most of the time if it's really dry it it might go down to 40 and when it's pouring out & soggy it'll rise to 60...I remember several people saying veg is higher and flower you want it lower but don't have any practical experience...I might just set it for 45 cause the humidifier seems to run less that way but I'm still checking on that
Just named em for ease of reference...1 and 2 seemed cold ;-)
ppms are at 1300 and ph is hovering almost perfect at 5.4
Here's a few more pics....a body shot...some mixed bud shots and the clone and seedling...
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just from the photos.....hard to tell w/out seeing plants....the healthier seems right on the edge of over.....curled down tips but leaves pretty much look ok. On the smaller one......I do not like that canoe shape on some of them......long skinny tips.....edges seem to be curling. I'll have to look it up....have a book..... be back....perhaps it is from the setup being turned off???
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Lemme know what the book says...it's possible those leaves are the ones that got the most dry when the pump was off they did get kinda hard and stiff just a thought but I figure I'm probably high on nutes as well...
so the first sign of over nute is some downward pointing leaf tips and moderate curving and then spotting or yellowing at the ends?
the bud at the top of Zola is about the size of a nickel now for some reference most of the rest are around a dime or smaller