The Definitive Green Dragon (Revised, Updated, Combined)
I'm glad you're going to try this because I think it works great. I agree that using a good reliable oven thermometer is probably a good idea, bacause at 325 you are probably cutting it kind of close to the danger zone where you could vaporize something your don't want to vaporize. If your oven thermostat were off, you might not get the results you want.
As far as different strains being affected by different temps, I'm not sure, but I don't think so. No matter what strain you are dealing with, the compounds are the same, just in different proportions. So I think all the vaporization, decarboxylization, isomerization and extraction reactions would happen at the same temperatures, ragardless of strain.
Sounds like you have a good experiment figured out for determining the effects of different beverages. But one thing I've found is that different poeple react differently to the same exact mixture and amount, so some of the differences that the people in your experiment report might be more related to that individual's physiology than to the method of ingesting.
Good luck and have fun! Let us know how it goes.
The Definitive Green Dragon (Revised, Updated, Combined)
Friends,
I am most happy to report that I have successfully saved a ruined batch. Here's how:
1. As you may know I volunteered to do a decarboxylation at 200F for 25min to see if it is as successful as 325F for 5 min. It was not successful. The 200F was not enough to decarboxylate and the GD was very sleepy and boring (THCA has mild analgesic effects).
2. My stupid was using a whole eighth and not setting up a small scale test. So I figured I had lost the whole batch and was planning on throwing it out. Then it occurred to me. What if I rebaked the GD extract at 325F and decarboxylated it. Of course I couldn't bake ethanol in the oven--boom--so I set up a water bath and evaporated all the ethanol. This left me with what appeared to be hash oil in the pan.
Note that to do this quickly I set up a simple double boiler with a small steel mixing bowl.
3. I then baked the hash oil in the steel mixing bowl for 5min at 325F. I removed it and redissolved it in 2oz of Everclear.
4. Friends, I now have a darn fine batch of GD. And I believe we have solved the optimal temperature problem.
Cheers,
Master Wu
The Definitive Green Dragon (Revised, Updated, Combined)
Thanks for posting these results.
I'm glad you were able to revive the batch. I felt sort of bad bacause you had tried the 200F temp at least partly on my recommendation. Next time I'll try the 325F and see what happens. For now I still need to work through my last batch. I did it at 200F, and it seems pretty good, but I would like to try the higher temp for comparison. I can't use the technique you just described because I've already mixed it into a liqueur.
(BTW, I wrote this post once before, but when I came back, I didn't see it on the thread. So I posted it again. If anyone sees this post popping up on a random thread where it doesn't belong, that is what happened!)
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Does anyone know if this method would work with stems? I have read other methods to make GD with stems but it was one that took over a month. I have atleast an ounce of stems to work with. I know the stems have far less thc so how much should I use? Any ideas or suggestions would be appreciated.
The Definitive Green Dragon (Revised, Updated, Combined)
u must have gone to weed college were do i sign up
The Definitive Green Dragon (Revised, Updated, Combined)
Made the green dragon using the directions from greendragonsoda.com
However I used .6 gram along with a kief. Baked it at 325 F for 4 minutes 30 seconds. (smelled up the room as if I were using my vape..used candles, fans, and an air purifier to kill the smell and it worked) Next I added the weed to the pyrex in a water bath along with 1 bottle of orange extract (79% alc.)... cooked the mixture at 170 F for 10 minutes, added 1 bottle of lemon extract (83% alcohol), raised the temp back up to 170 F and cooked for 12 more minutes
I had the same effects as dragonrider when adding the water to the bath to cool the mixture...there was an instant color change from emerald clear to opaque and buttery green/yellow. I then mashed the weed as best i could and strained it..
Chugged the green dragon with a Bud Ice on an empty stomach..felt the effects within 15 minutes...still ripped as we speak over 1.5 hours later.
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My GD report
So, I got some shitty weed from a friend to try this out, just so I don't waste good weed. Used 1g of grass and 16ml of Mastika (a 94 proof drink - the most alcohol content I could find).
Here's where I think I might have gone wrong. I pre-heated the oven for about 4 mins, setting it to 325-ish (erred on the less side) then after 4 mins I put the weed in a shallow baking pan. It almost instantly started stinking up the whole kitchen, like in the first minute.
Anyway, I kept it in there for about 4 mins, took it out, put in in a glass jar and put it in the water bath for 20 mins. I hope I got the water bath temp right cause I don't have any kind of thermometer. I took half the mixture (since I used shitty weed and maybe got the baking wrong, I assume half of it isn't really bad) 10 mins ago (3:20 pm local time). I'll update as things (hopefully) develop.
Did I get the baking wrong though? The end product of the baking was pretty brown ....
The Definitive Green Dragon (Revised, Updated, Combined)
ummm, either I can't edit posts or I just don't realize how to, but just wanted to say that I obviously did take it on an empty stomach (and I mean empty, I haven't eaten for about 40 hours :D )
The Definitive Green Dragon (Revised, Updated, Combined)
well, it had little to no effect. obviously i screwed up the weed. i'll be trying with better quality and a thermometer next time. should be soon :thumbsup:
The Definitive Green Dragon (Revised, Updated, Combined)
thats crazy 2 mls would put u into space? thats some potent shit man... a shot is 50 mls so 1/25 of a shot = space is awesome... i can see what would make people think to put alot more.