LED growing- An instructional grow log

thanks phat, i am saving the genetics...lol, the rest of the room is a cross of it....and yeah, JH does get tall and open....
ziggy, we had them pre ordered, not sure what the date was, check my signiture for stats...they were very good about getting the lights here quick, no price break though,, and no one other than us and greenpinelane have tested this light as far as i know....high times did the UFO in march issue i believe, they loved it...and the procyon blows the UFo away, so im optamistic.....
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whiskeytango

great topic, you must be the first testing these lights.
They are indeed the best on the market today.
I'd love to see that they equal 400W hps
If they do the trick, I'll buy 2 of them to replace my 600W hehe

Have fun ! I'll be looking over your shoulder:)

Greets bramfield

:) I was wondering if that light would work in a closet to grow with only one light will this work or do I need more than one?:stoned:

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:) I was wondering if that light would work in a closet to grow with only one light will this work or do I need more than one?:stoned:

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All three lights are the same so, yes you should be able to use one at a time. if your doing more than four plants, I'd suggest using a larger tub as to center them more toward the array.

Thanks for joining in:thumbsup:

Db:smokin:

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55/45 WH?...the 23 were counting a few sick ones, or ones i didnt deem "worthy" have 10 ladies, 2 left to show

heres a few pics of my WTF plant...remember, i had 3 seeds that were not the cross, old parent seeds, so maybe this is just jack herer, not the cross....any opinions? Its flowering very well, even the lower tops....the last pic is in the room, so you can see its almost double in height...way spaced, i would say stretching, but none of the otheres are doing this, and it has been going for 2 weeks, tried moving light, putting it in the outside part of the light, right under the light...gave just water one feeding...lost on ideas...or maybe its just a tall girl?

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hey snsstealth crew if i remember correctly isn't jack herer sativa dominant, could be a jack h or the jh x bb cross just showing more of the sativa phenotypes in that specific seed. either way they're lookin grrrrrrrreat. can't wait myself to expiriment with leds in my grow room. what do you think about a 4x4 ebb n flow scrog w/ leds :D well thank you two for keepin up with it alot of the grows don't get finished. i'll keep waitng and watching for the finale keep up the good work. it's a job isn't it.

later, D :420thought:

ps. are you guyz breeding for beans... how many generations you gonna go... would love some clones or beans of that cross:thumbsup:

definitely going for beans....pulled the daddy out, cause we only have one room....and someone (no names DOUGHBOY) snapped the pappa in 3 places..haha had to bust you out man...just hope the balls were done enough to have me some pollen..otherwise, the jack was a hermie that pollinated the BB, so hopefully i get a hermie to backcross again, and i will have feminized seeds, on TOP of being a dank ass cross;)
id love to share the strain though, what true old school grower could horde a strain...bad stoner juju in my opinion...unfortunately, we only got one other grower we can trade with, id love to see other people tweak this cross, add to it....i want a strain in the cannabible....and 1 million...non sequintial...small bills........
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whiskeytango

need the pros here....are we being paranoid?...just old leaves dying? or do we got something wrong with this girl....i cut back her fan leaves, the spots only seemed to be on those...any ideas? plants seems healthy otherwise, no other plants have it either...so i flushed it and snapped pics....help

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whiskeytango

I'm guessing magnesium deficiency or PH fluctuations, but probably the first since it's only on the lower leaves. It doesn't look real bad, but it could get worse. If only a few of the lower leaves get brown it's no big deal. I'm not highly skilled at problem diagnosis. I would post it in the problem section, and search "problem chart" in this forum. There are at least 5.

thanks opie...ill look into it......
WT

UPDATE!!!! got 2 plants flowering STRONG...some still just starting to show....2 weeks since onset as of tomorrow...super-cropped and trimmed at beginning of onset, slowed them down for a few days...except for the 2 plants in the pics...look at them go!!!!heh...4th pic is my WH inspired plant...lol, thanks weedhound, saw your church, had to try shaping it that way;). last pic is oooh-aaah...
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whiskeytango

think those first 3 pics are parents...i had a few sensiseed jack herers left, think the first 2 pics are said yummy;) pretty sure the 3rd pic in last thread is a bubbleberry...here are a few more of her...
WT

Why are you growing poinsettas?

Looks good so far, are those green spots in the purple photo areas that don't get light?

the photos are looking amazing.. i have been a silent follower of your grow for a while now..
i want to do a super simple 3 small plant in a cupboard and have been thinking led the whole way... nothing professional and serious.. just a few fun plants at home.. i was thinking about the ebay special and had wondered if anyone had tried this yet... 225led's .. 12in by 12in panel.. 110V and a mix of red and blue... i know it is nothing fancy but do you think it would do the trick? also.. if there is somewhere on here (SO MUCH) that has these answers.. please kick me in that direction
thanks everyone!!!!!
ps- i have not blazed in over 4 weeks now for a upcoming drug test so this is all real painful for me to think about.. haha

no opie...green spots in the grow room, are from my flash...kinda cool effect....savannah....ty;) and DO NOT go for the ebay special...we tried those, plants fail bad...maspino had a thread using them too.....you get what you pay for with LEDs. either get the procyon, (i know, expensive), or talk to physicsnole and opie yutts, they can help you in building a set up of quality LEDs.

thankas for the interest everyone
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whiskeytango

I'd tend to agree with Opie about ph fluctuations and/or fert build up in your soil. I'd check the soil ph if I were you.....are you checking the ph of your water?

Like Opie says....it seems quite minor....but those things sure can spread in a hurry so watch it very carefully. Those plants REALLY looking stunning......and naturally you want to keep them that way.

Hi,

I have watching this thread too and am excited by the great results! I was experimenting with Swiss Miss in a greenhouse trying for a winter crop. I started about the same time you did we were having about 10 hours of sunlight temps were on the cold side but no frost using foxfarm. Your plants are easily twice the size of mine.

Sharon

Hey stealthy crew...just wondering if you'd figured out your electric billz for these bad boys. I'm guessing somewhere around 15-20 bucks per month for the three lights?

Still looking amazing...email me a bowl when they're done please.:smokebong:

thanks for the kind words all.......WH thanks for the advice, testing the Ph later today...got one of those stick reading analog meters that do moisture, lumens, Ph...blah blah....found out the Ph test isnt simply stick n read...lol, gettin to it today, deciphering the directions...hope thats it....hasnt gotten any worse since i trimmed fan leaves and flushed...testing Ph anyway....harvest should be around beginning of may...dunno with the cross...maybe late apr or mid may....ill let the girls tell e when they are ready;)
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whiskeytango

Not Mg def... we should all be able to recognize that by now: Mg def presents as REGULAR STRIPES between veins.

That's K def, textbook. You have it as a lockout coming from soggy, acidic soil conditions.

You are using pots with built-in drip trays I'll bet, and as a result, both drainage and the ability of oxygen to get at teh root zone are greatly impacted, resulting in soggy soil and reducing/anaerobic conditions. Ph is probably dropped out of range too by the looks of things.

Rip off the drip trays, drill additional holes in the sides of the pot, flush with pH'd water, water with a grow fert at 1/4 strength plus some Serenade if you have it (those conditions are perfect for fungus).

sweet....thanks stinky;)
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whiskeytango

=SnSstealth;1825056]thanks for the kind words all.......WH thanks for the advice, testing the Ph later today...

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got one of those stick reading analog meters that do moisture, lumens, Ph...

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blah blah....found out the Ph test isnt simply stick n read...lol, gettin to it today, deciphering the directions...hope thats it....hasnt gotten any worse since i trimmed fan leaves and flushed...testing Ph anyway....harvest should be around beginning of may...dunno with the cross...maybe late apr or mid may....ill let the girls tell e when they are ready;)
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i tried one of those too. they don't work all that great you'd get more accurate readings just testing ph of the runoff from each pot. looking hgood though:twocents:

D :bigsmoke:

woohoo i got five bucks:D... they had the trays on them, but as WT told me at the start that they would not work for MJ, we pulled them off prior to planting. we did however cover 4 of the 8 holes on bottom and set them on the clear plastic trays. put an inch to an inch and a half of rock then soil. we watered, settled and planted.

Really hope its not PH as it could show up in all of them if thats the case. we'll work on her today, though she seems to be doing better after the flush and attention shes gotten. thanks again:thumbsup:

thanks D, Can I get a liquid PH meter at the DEPOT or do i need to find a garden shop?

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Hey stealthy crew...just wondering if you'd figured out your electric billz for these bad boys. I'm guessing somewhere around 15-20 bucks per month for the three lights?

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thats about right, no higher. I want to wait for summer to do an accurate test. On and off cold fronts make it hard to judge against last year.

savannah check out this http://boards.cannabis.com/grow-log/...rn-lights.html

thanks all,
Db:smokin:

you can find liquid pH test kits at aquarium supply shops or in the fish tank section of a decent department store.

Uncover those holes!!! More drainage=happier plants. Think how much more comfy Birkenstocks are than muck boots...

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i tried one of those too. they don't work all that great you'd get more accurate readings just testing ph of the runoff from each pot.

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Everyone says those don't work, but I bought one a few days ago when I was planting my blueberries (real ones). Did you know that they prefer soil PHd to 4.5? And you thought MJ liked acid. Anyway, that soil PH tester seems to work just fine for me. You just have to make sure you follow the directions. Like SnS said, you can't just stick it in and read it.

Then my damn dog pulled out half the friggen blueberry bushes. Anyone want an expensive Chesapeake Bay Retriever?

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woohoo i got five bucks:D... they had the trays on them, but as WT told me at the start that they would not work for MJ, we pulled them off prior to planting. we did however cover 4 of the 8 holes on bottom and set them on the clear plastic trays. put an inch to an inch and a half of rock then soil. we watered, settled and planted.

Really hope its not PH as it could show up in all of them if thats the case. we'll work on her today, though she seems to be doing better after the flush and attention shes gotten. thanks again:thumbsup:

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thanks D, Can I get a liquid PH meter at the DEPOT or do i need to find a garden shop?

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thats about right, no higher. I want to wait for summer to do an accurate test. On and off cold fronts make it hard to judge against last year.

savannah check out this http://boards.cannabis.com/grow-log/...rn-lights.html

thanks all,
Db:smokin:

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hey sns crew, I got mine at the hydro shop for 16 bones.....it came with the test indicator, ph up & down, a droper and a test tube...tried the stick meter according to the instructions but i didn't fell the cheap thing was as accurate as testing the runoff

D :bigsmoke:

Opie Yutts;1825298]Everyone says those don't work, but I bought one a few days ago when I was planting my blueberries (real ones). Did you know that they prefer soil PHd to 4.5? And you thought MJ liked acid. Anyway, that soil PH tester seems to work just fine for me.

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You just have to make sure you follow the directions. Like SnS said, you can't just stick it in and read it.

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Then my damn dog pulled out half the friggen blueberry bushes. Anyone want an expensive Chesapeake Bay Retriever?

hey opie I do know how to read directions, put the probe down to root level, & waited . I just think the runoff would be more accurate.. to each his own...

later D :S5:

I been following this thread quietly but I'm realy amped. Hope it turns out well for you. Maybe it will spark the LED revolution in growing and the proffesional grow lights will become a bit cheaper. LED clusters are cheap to put together oneself but theres the problem of getting the right light wavelengths. On that note has anyone been able to get that graph showing the correct wavelengths for cannabis from the High Times mag?
It sucks being in South Africa because it's realy difficult to get hold of any copies

Just dropping by to say thanks for doing this grow, and props on getting your letter into High Times May 2008 issue.:thumbsup:

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hey opie I do know how to read directions, put the probe down to root level, & waited.

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Not that it means much, but there is more to it on my directions.

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has anyone been able to get that graph showing the correct wavelengths for cannabis from the High Times mag?

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Ditto. I'm tired of begging. Nobody who has the chart has a digital camera or scanner?

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Just dropping by to say thanks for doing this grow, and props on getting your letter into High Times May 2008 issue.:thumbsup:

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huh? you got the may issue in march...cool. didnt know if they would print it. have to go pick that up :thumbsup:

How many led's does one plant require?

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How many led's does one plant require?

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six.

this ones for opie....;) hope it does it for you man, still cant get my scanner connected to the comp, so i took 2 pics of the graph for "OPTIMUM SPECTRUM FOR CANNABIS" for ya.
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whiskeytango

flash and no flash.....no flash looks better

now for the updates...havent gotten a regular bulb in the grow room yet...and its getting harder to pick the ladies up and take them in another room for pics...lol. so we tried sepia and black and white pics....tell us what you think.....you already know they are green..lol, but tell us if you would rather the pics be in "real" color. 15 days into onset...they seem to be moving quite fast IMO...lights maybe good for flowering too?...according to the charts below, we are dead on for blue, and there is a spike at 630, which is where we are in red, but almost 100% is at 660ish...so we may supplement some 660s for the next grow.

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whiskeytango

first 2 pics are comparison pics

Thanks soooo much for that chart. I and several others owe you one, or two. I think I want to play with it in photoshop to find the exact numbers of the peaks like I did with the other charts I posted. If I do, I'll post it in the other thread (physicsnole's).

I think I like the sepia better than B&W, but I don't know if I like it better than actual color. I think I'm leaning toward color. I think the best would be if you could wait until just after the lights go out, or just before they come on to take the pictures. It will not affect the plants, if you are worried about that. The plants aren't going to know if they got 12 hr. of light or 12 hr. and 2 seconds.

;) no problem opie, and good point, girls are getting to heavy to carry out...lol do pics then from now on.

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whiskeytango

Thanks for those graphs, Stealth! And those ladies are looking beautiful! Well done

wow, there comeing around nicely.. whats the expected yeild ?:stoned:

Very impressive! Definitely the best LED grow I've seen yet. Opie and yourself are definitely 'shedding some light' on the subject! I didn't think the technology was here yet, but I stand corrected. I was a nationally certified electronics professional for a few years, so this is extremely interesting to me. Your plants have great color too! Anticipating the finished product... Excellent job Stealth!